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Thread: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    In early 2012 the US missed a huge opportunity to support genuinely moderate (and largely secular) opponents of the Asad regime. Our failure to do so created the opportunity for extremists to supplant them as the regime's principal opponents.
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In early 2012 the US missed a huge opportunity to support genuinely moderate (and largely secular) opponents of the Asad regime. Our failure to do so created the opportunity for extremists to supplant them as the regime's principal opponents.
    I think that was over-exaggerated JH. We had up all their groups. Many were espousing for Shariah Law.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    * US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten :* Information Clearing House - ICH

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    US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

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    February 25, 2015 "ICH" - "Fair" - That the US is arming and training Syrian rebels has been well-documented for over two years, yet Western media have historically suffered from a strange collective amnesia when reporting this fact. As Ian Sinclair noted last September in the Huffington Post (9/23/14):

    New York Times (5/4/13): "President [Obama] seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance to the Syrian rebels, even though he rejected such a policy just months ago."

    Guardian (5/8/13): "The US, which has outlawed al-Nusra as a terrorist group, has hesitated to arm the FSA [Free Syrian Army]."…
    New York Times (9/9/14): "Mr Obama has resisted military engagement in Syria for more than three years, out of fear early on that arming the rebels who oppose Mr. Assad would fail to alter the balance in the civil war."
    BBC Today Programme (9/11/14), presenter Mishal Husein to US ambassador: "If you [the US] had helped the moderate Syrian opposition, the Free Syrian Army, three years ago, even two years ago, we might well not be in the position that we are now. President Obama's reluctance to intervene and to take action on Syria has contributed to what we are seeing now."
    New York Times (5/4/13): "President [Obama] seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance to the Syrian rebels, even though he rejected such a policy just months ago."

    Guardian (5/8/13): "The US, which has outlawed al-Nusra as a terrorist group, has hesitated to arm the FSA [Free Syrian Army]."…
    New York Times (9/9/14): "Mr Obama has resisted military engagement in Syria for more than three years, out of fear early on that arming the rebels who oppose Mr. Assad would fail to alter the balance in the civil war."
    BBC Today Programme (9/11/14), presenter Mishal Husein to US ambassador: "If you [the US] had helped the moderate Syrian opposition, the Free Syrian Army, three years ago, even two years ago, we might well not be in the position that we are now. President Obama's reluctance to intervene and to take action on Syria has contributed to what we are seeing now."

    Should we be arming Islamic rebels?.
    We've been doing this since 2012.
    Predictably these "moderates" turned out to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda. So basically should we be arming Al-Qaeda?
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In early 2012 the US missed a huge opportunity to support genuinely moderate (and largely secular) opponents of the Asad regime. Our failure to do so created the opportunity for extremists to supplant them as the regime's principal opponents.
    In early 2012 the US missed a huge opportunity to support the Assad regime. Our failure to do so created the opportunity for extremists to grow in strength and attack the legitimate governing body of Syria. A legitimate body that protects and defends people regardless of faith I might add.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Predictably these "moderates" turned out to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda. So basically should we be arming Al-Qaeda?
    Precisely my point. If you don't have terrorists, you don't have a War on Terror and the associated profit stream. Ergo, it is prudent marketing to arm terrorists wherever you can find them or gin some up. The USA has for years been arming Islamic rebels in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and who knows where else. Somalia even. Keerist mon, it's "jus' bidness" to quote the First Torturor, GW Bush.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think that was over-exaggerated JH. We had up all their groups. Many were espousing for Shariah Law.
    Sorry, but that's simply not true. Because they did not receive timely support they were stalemated and the extremists were given their opening.
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Predictably these "moderates" turned out to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda. So basically should we be arming Al-Qaeda?

    No. The moderates were not supported and became stalemated. That gave the extremists their opening.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    In early 2012 the US missed a huge opportunity to support the Assad regime. Our failure to do so created the opportunity for extremists to grow in strength and attack the legitimate governing body of Syria. A legitimate body that protects and defends people regardless of faith I might add.
    The Asad regime is a brutal dictatorship unworthy of support.
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Asad regime is a brutal dictatorship unworthy of support.
    I disagree with your grade school level of analysis and suggest you grab a history book so that you can learn the track record of the people we've supported in the past.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. The moderates were not supported and became stalemated. That gave the extremists their opening.
    We did support the moderates. They turned out to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I disagree with your grade school level of analysis and suggest you grab a history book so that you can learn the track record of the people we've supported in the past.

    We did support the moderates. They turned out to be affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
    Wrong. We never provided meaningful support to the moderates and they were supplanted by extremists affiliated with AQ. Your ego is writing checks your knowledge can't cash.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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