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Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

Well?

  • I'm a liberal: conservatives are evil

    Votes: 2 4.0%

  • I'm a conservative: liberals are evil

    Votes: 3 6.0%

  • I'm a liberal: conservatives aren't evil

    Votes: 20 40.0%

  • I'm a conservative: liberals aren't evil

    Votes: 11 22.0%

  • Ban Morality Games

    Votes: 14 28.0%
  • Total voters
    50
I think there are few people I truly believe their political opposite are "evil".

But there are many more than think their political opposite are intentionally or ignorantly destroying the country or are unpatriotic because they do not believe as they do.
 
Morality Games said:
Its meant to be a zero sum, bottom line question.

I don't identify enough with either ideology to cast a vote either way; I generally dislike conservatism more but more often than not wind up feeling every person who has ever existed is evil and that ideology is them showing their most evil side: unrelentingly hypocritical, unfailingly self-serving and self-congratulatory, and all round conceited.

In my better moments, I try to tell myself no one is evil.
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I voted to ban your ass because anonymous polls are evil.
 
Morality Games said:
Its meant to be a zero sum, bottom line question.

I don't identify enough with either ideology to cast a vote either way; I generally dislike conservatism more but more often than not wind up feeling every person who has ever existed is evil and that ideology is them showing their most evil side: unrelentingly hypocritical, unfailingly self-serving and self-congratulatory, and all round conceited.

In my better moments, I try to tell myself no one is evil.
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Realistically speaking, some are, but most aren't.

I certainly think that certain aspects of Left Wing ideology are intrinsically and unequivocally evil, however.
 
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Joe Steel said:
Conservatives are evil.

There. I've said it and I mean it.

The major forces behind conservatism as it exists in America today are willful ignorance and malice. Conservatism demands of its adherents a willingness to accept all manner of injustices without anything beyond a cursory consideration of their causes and further demands a willingness to punish those who aren't part of the mainstream. Witness conservatism's rejection of any attempt to alleviate the pain of the poor who suffer without healthcare and the emotional distress of social outcasts such as gays and lesbians.

Americans never can call themselves civilized as long as they allow conservatism to exist.
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Meh, at least you're honest. My prediction is that, for all the platitudes about "both sides blah blah" the only folks who'll challenge your statements will be those on the right.

Let's sit back and observe, shall we?
 
Morality Games said:
Its meant to be a zero sum, bottom line question.

I don't identify enough with either ideology to cast a vote either way; I generally dislike conservatism more but more often than not wind up feeling every person who has ever existed is evil and that ideology is them showing their most evil side: unrelentingly hypocritical, unfailingly self-serving and self-congratulatory, and all round conceited.

In my better moments, I try to tell myself no one is evil.
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I do no0t agree with the conservative vision of America, but at least they are trying to improve the country as they see it. I can accept that, even when disagreeing with the vision they have of what is best for the country. When we lose sight of the fact that those who disagree with us still want what is best for the country we lose the ability to hold meaningful dialogs and find common ground, and therefore lose the ability to make this a better country.
 
Joe Steel said:
Conservatives are evil.

There. I've said it and I mean it.

The major forces behind conservatism as it exists in America today are willful ignorance and malice. Conservatism demands of its adherents a willingness to accept all manner of injustices without anything beyond a cursory consideration of their causes and further demands a willingness to punish those who aren't part of the mainstream. Witness conservatism's rejection of any attempt to alleviate the pain of the poor who suffer without healthcare and the emotional distress of social outcasts such as gays and lesbians.

Americans never can call themselves civilized as long as they allow conservatism to exist.
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That is either a poor attempt at humor or one of the most stupid things I have ever read, or both.
 
I don't all think collectivists are evil. But most of the ones I have ever seen are poorly educated and not very bright. The philosophy they subscribe to appeals to emotions and requires very little thinking, which suits them well.
 
Nilly said:
No....


Is this a serious question???
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It probably is, but it's VERY poorly thought out. It gives a binary choice, leaving people no room for anything other than one of two polar extremes for their respective ideology. For example, I'm a conservative and I think that some aspects of liberal ideology and beliefs are evil, but not intentionally so. I also believe that for the most part, liberals believe that they are doing good in these aspects. While the outcome may be evil, the motivation most certainly is not. A poll like this one forces the responder to eliminate that possibility and simple choose one two bad choices.
 
matchlight said:
I don't all think collectivists are evil. But most of the ones I have ever seen are poorly educated and not very bright. The philosophy they subscribe to appeals to emotions and requires very little thinking, which suits them well.
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I suppose, by collectivist, you mean progressive. If that's the case, you comment is ridiculous.

Conservative is just another way to say "low-effort thinker." Low-effort thinking leads to ignorance and that's a hallmark of conservatism. Witness the woefully under-informed support for Keystone XL by conservatives. No matter how often the facts are laid-out, conservatives insist it would create jobs and be "good for America." That's utterly absurd and any substantive analysis of the issue proves it.
 
Joe Steel said:
Conservatives are evil.

There. I've said it and I mean it.

The major forces behind conservatism as it exists in America today are willful ignorance and malice. Conservatism demands of its adherents a willingness to accept all manner of injustices without anything beyond a cursory consideration of their causes and further demands a willingness to punish those who aren't part of the mainstream. Witness conservatism's rejection of any attempt to alleviate the pain of the poor who suffer without healthcare and the emotional distress of social outcasts such as gays and lesbians.

Americans never can call themselves civilized as long as they allow conservatism to exist.
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shrubnose said:
Anyone who thinks that all members of any group are evil based upon the actions of some members of that group is a bigot. :roll:

Does anyone disagree with that?

Now that we've put this BS out of the way maybe we can move on to some important issues.
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Northern Light said:
Anyone who subscribes to the universe revolving around this political duality is insane, or stupid, or both.
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I'll let my fellow member of DP address this piece of work....
 
anonymous polls are evil
 
Redress said:
That is either a poor attempt at humor or one of the most stupid things I have ever read, or both.
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welcome to Stalin's biggest fan on DP. Based on his former posts, he does believe what he said, Redress
 
Joe Steel said:
Would you say some NAZIs were good NAZIs?
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Huh??? What does that have to do with my post??? You made a hate-filed, bigotry ridden post and I used some posts by other members to point it out. So where does the whole Nazi connection come in?? Based on your first post, my guess is that you're not all that bright, so I'll let you take few hours to formulate a response...
 
Joe Steel said:
Conservatives are evil.

There. I've said it and I mean it.

The major forces behind conservatism as it exists in America today are willful ignorance and malice. Conservatism demands of its adherents a willingness to accept all manner of injustices without anything beyond a cursory consideration of their causes and further demands a willingness to punish those who aren't part of the mainstream. Witness conservatism's rejection of any attempt to alleviate the pain of the poor who suffer without healthcare and the emotional distress of social outcasts such as gays and lesbians.

Americans never can call themselves civilized as long as they allow conservatism to exist.
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Partisans are ****ing useless. I'm not a fan of conservative worldview and much its policy, but this post is about as ignorant as it gets about conservatism. Conservatives are no more evil than are liberals or libertarians. Members of each group want to make this country a better place to live, they just have varied ways of getting there. And frankly, each group has their good ideas and well as their bad ones. Conservatives and liberals overlap plenty, liberals and libertarians overlap plenty, conservatives and libertarians overlap plenty. But nobody is all that focused on what we all have in common, but rather what we don't. Which is why we are seeing a political standstill in Washington due to partisan politics and ideological purity.
 
Dragonfly said:
Short list please. Top 5 perhaps.
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1. Abortion, and the entire Liberal approach to the subject, full stop
2. The impulsively hedonistic, irresponsible, and self-serving "If it feels good, do it" mentality so common to the social Left
3. The Left's latent obsession with tearing down the family and productive social structures in general in favor of the chaos of #2
4. The rampant anti-humanism endemic to a large portion of the more "Environmentally conscious" Left (often linked with #1)
5. The almost militant anti-religiosity common to the intellectual Left

I'd also argue that "moral relativism" is an intrinsically "evil" ideological idea. It tends to be rather intrinsic to the Leftist mindset as well.
 
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faithful_servant said:
Huh??? What does that have to do with my post??? You made a hate-filed, bigotry ridden post and I used some posts by other members to point it out. So where does the whole Nazi connection come in?? Based on your first post, my guess is that you're not all that bright, so I'll let you take few hours to formulate a response...
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You said:

Anyone who thinks that all members of any group are evil based upon the actions of some members of that group is a bigot.
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I'll let my fellow member of DP address this piece of work....
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So, do you think all members of the group "NAZIs" were evil or were some good?
 
Joe Steel said:
I suppose, by collectivist, you mean progressive. If that's the case, you comment is ridiculous.

Conservative is just another way to say "low-effort thinker." Low-effort thinking leads to ignorance and that's a hallmark of conservatism. Witness the woefully under-informed support for Keystone XL by conservatives. No matter how often the facts are laid-out, conservatives insist it would create jobs and be "good for America." That's utterly absurd and any substantive analysis of the issue proves it.
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I use the terms "collectivist," "statist," "leftist," and "commie" more or less interchangeably. They all describe a political philosophy that is fundamentally un-American.

Your posts have proven the point I was making many times. I am happy to see you do it once more.
 
matchlight said:
I use the terms "collectivist," "statist," "leftist," and "commie" more or less interchangeably. They all describe a political philosophy that is fundamentally un-American.

Your posts have proven the point I was making many times. I am happy to see you do it once more.
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Collectivists believe in promoting and providing for the general welfare. Is that unamerican?
 
Gathomas88 said:
1. Abortion, and the entire Liberal approach to the subject, full stop
2. The impulsively hedonistic, irresponsible, and self-serving "If it feels good, do it" mentality so common to the social Left
3. The Left's latent obsession with tearing down the family and productive social structures in general in favor of the chaos of #2
4. The rampant anti-humanism endemic to a large portion of the more "Environmentally conscious" Left (often linked with #1)
5. The almost militant anti-religiosity common to the intellectual Left

I'd also argue that "moral relativism" is an intrinsically "evil" ideological idea. It tends to be rather intrinsic to the Leftist mindset as well.
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So you hate freedom. That's what you are basically saying. You don't like it when people have choices.

Choice = Evil

That's pretty much your entire point.
 
Dragonfly said:
So you hate freedom. That's what you are basically saying. You don't like it when people have choices.

Choice = Evil

That's pretty much your entire point.
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The death, depravity, chaos, and generally self-destructive impulses the Left likes to confuse with "freedom," perhaps.

Funny thing about that, however. The Left only really seems to respect "choice" so long as the choices made happen fall in line with its own way of thinking.
 
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