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Thread: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hope you're right. How can it be messed with?
    See Post #160.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Its meant to be a zero sum, bottom line question.

    I don't identify enough with either ideology to cast a vote either way; I generally dislike conservatism more but more often than not wind up feeling every person who has ever existed is evil and that ideology is them showing their most evil side: unrelentingly hypocritical, unfailingly self-serving and self-congratulatory, and all round conceited.

    In my better moments, I try to tell myself no one is evil.
    I *think* I understand the question. If so, my answer would be that the more extreme a person is in their partisanship... and it doesn't matter which side... then yes, they are more prone to view the other side as evil (for lack of a better word). In fact, it's almost come to be expected, lest peer pressure from one's own group rail against them.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Some Nazi soldiers were simply stuck between a rock and a hard place. They had no choice but to follow orders.

    That is typical of any militia. Many soldier may disagree with the objective however they can not simply disobey orders.

    I am sure there were some Nazi soldiers who were sickened by the atrocities they had to commit. Humans are truly, TRULY, not as black and white as you want to paint them as.
    I wasn't speaking of German soldiers. I was speaking of members of the Nazi Party. The two are not the same.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    What a bull**** generalization to make. There are plenty of compassionate libertarians and conservatives. ...
    I doubt it. Conservatism places far too much importance on personal responsibility. That leaves no room for compassion.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by akrunner88 View Post
    ... And they believe the answer to poverty is hard work. ...
    As we all know, plenty of very poor persons work very hard. Basing on political philosophy on a fallacy is foolish.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Here's the problem with that statement: Are you talking about every German who was a National Socialist Party member, every soldier wearing a German uniform, every German (soldier or not) who adhered to all of the National Socialist Party's beliefs or anyone today who willingly and with full agreement to NAZI beliefs wears NAZI ink??

    See, just asking a question that could be interpreted so many ways is simply trying to set me up. Clarify your parameters and we can have a discussion, but I'm not going to get in this game you're trying to play without knowing what the rules are.
    You set the parameters. You said some members of an evil group can be good. How can that be? Doesn't the act of joining mean approval of the group's actions?
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I was wondering who would introduce this fallacy. Sometimes mentioning Nazis is the right thing to do because they're really bad.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I doubt it. Conservatism places far too much importance on personal responsibility. That leaves no room for compassion.
    Compassion and personal responsibility only seem incompatible to someone whose only understanding of “compassion” is based on the abuse of government force to take what one person has rightfully earned, and give it to someone who has not earned it.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I doubt it. Conservatism places far too much importance on personal responsibility. That leaves no room for compassion.
    Maybe, but too often what liberals think of as compassion really does no favors for those they're wanting to help.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Compassion and personal responsibility only seem incompatible to someone whose only understanding of “compassion” is based on the abuse of government force to take what one person has rightfully earned, and give it to someone who has not earned it.
    Taxes are a properly constituted power of Congress. It's not an abuse of government force.
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