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  • I'm a liberal: conservatives are evil

    158 46.88%
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Thread: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    I can't see the voting results because I didn't vote.
    Here are the results as they stand at 5:10 PM CST, 2-26-15:

    158 professed liberals think conservatives are evil.

    1 professed conservative thinks liberals are evil.

    15 professed liberals think conservatives are not evil.

    132 professed conservatives think liberals aren't evil.

    There are also 12 votes to ban Morality Games.

    Again: don't these results seem a little odd to anyone else?

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    These poll numbers are so bogus. Getting real tired of this happening to nearly every poll.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Holy ****... This actually pretty fascinating. The majority of liberals on here see conservatives as evil, but the majority of conservatives DO NOT see liberals as evil? This might be indicative of something inherent in both ideologies.

    If I had to guess, it is because of the liberal's passion to create change, striving for their perception of justice, and how they see conservatives as a force that is out to prevent it. Most conservatives had a strict religious upbringing, and are no doubt taught that even though humans are sinful they still can be saved. They may behave otherwise, but ultimately they can't bring themselves to call anyone "evil" because they supposedly "love" everyone. I wonder if poll results would be similar if a more official survey was done?

    EDIT: Or the poll results were rigged somehow? Haha, that could be possible too.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Bigotry is an evil and roughly half of all conservatives are somewhat bigoted. The other half are mostly tolerant of bigotry if allowing it can be justified by their other principals. They don't think they are evil, but many of them favor philosophical principals that are benign on the surface even though they cause genuine harm to others. A classic example is support of discrimination by businesses. Many conservatives consider the principal of allowing the business freedom of choice a priority over the need for everyone to access goods and services. They consider the business owner's mental anguish over having to serve a customer he hates more significant than the physical/practical inconvenience the victim experiences. I consider that evil, but they think they are protecting a virtue. They aren't choosing evil, but they are perpetuating and/or supporting it.

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do no0t agree with the conservative vision of America, but at least they are trying to improve the country as they see it. I can accept that, even when disagreeing with the vision they have of what is best for the country. When we lose sight of the fact that those who disagree with us still want what is best for the country we lose the ability to hold meaningful dialogs and find common ground, and therefore lose the ability to make this a better country.
    I think you make a real good point here to polarization in America.

    A pair of surveys asked Americans a concrete question: in 1960, whether they would be “displeased” if their child married someone outside their political party, and, in 2010, would be “upset” if their child married someone of the other party. In 1960, about 5 percent of Americans expressed a negative reaction to party intermarriage; in 2010, about 40 percent did (Republicans about 50 percent, Democrats about 30 percent).
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's an interesting definition of "evil."
    It's also interesting that every bit of that has been contributed to in some fashion by conservatives as well.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Looking at the poll results, I'd say there's no point anymore in posting polls here. Anonymous polls, anyway.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    True you did #1.
    ][*]Hate being a moral issue, now criminal justice is legislating morality]
    Justice - laws has always been part of what you call morality

    [*]The only difference between a particular crime and the hate version of that crime is alleged motivation, an indeterminate judgement conclusion and not factual (at least in most cases)
    Recall the days of people targeting and hunting down gays for a beating

    [*]The only difference between a particular crime and the hate version of that crime is the amount of violence and damage
    Motivation has and is part of the justice system, sometime for leniency, sometime not.

    [QUOTE][*]The level of punishment of the non-hate crime version can easily handle pushing those that inflict greater violence[QUOTE]
    How, links, expand upon this please??

    [*]Hate crimes denote protected classes, which in itself is discriminatory at the conceptual level
    Protected classes, or protecting classes that need it.

    *]The creation and designation of some crimes to be hate crimes is little more than playing to psychological appeasement of some[/list]
    No protecting those that are and can be targets due to a variety of reasons, that the crime was based upon hate. specific hatred.

    (Did I miss any?)
    I don't think you missed any

    The position being argued is that the definition and existence of hate crimes currently remains unjustified, at least based on the posting in this forum to date.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Which only goes to show the futility of moral relativism. If good and evil is subject to the whims of individual or even cultural tastes, then the distinction becomes meaningless.

    Was the Nazi extermination of Jews and other “undesirables” evil? I think most today universally recognize it as one of the greatest examples of pure evil in recent history, but by the [lack of any meaningful] standard that you seem to advocate, it couldn't be evil, because it was approved by the society in which it occurred, and allowed by the laws thereof.
    All morals are, by definition, relative. That doesn't mean that different societies cannot choose what morals to value and what morals to reject, in fact, that's really how morality works. Nobody can show that their individual moral views are factually accurate or true though, it's all opinion, even yours. In WWII, a lot of countries decided to fight against Hitler, more because of his expansionism than because of his views. In fact, one of the major reasons that the U.S. and Britain advocated giving Israel to the Jews is because they felt bad that they hadn't really paid much attention to the Holocaust early in the war. Two sides fought. One side won. The winners write the history. If Hitler had won and taken over any significant part of the world, there likely would be a very different story in the history books today.

    This kind of "objective morality" arguing is really a bunch of "I'm right, so there!" without having to actually demonstrate that your views are true.
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    Re: Liberals and Conservatives: Are adherents of the rival ideology evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I can't see the voting results because I didn't vote.
    Just as a side note, you can see the results without voting, there is an option for "See Results". Just an FYI for anyone who didn't know.
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