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  • 1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.

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  • 2. Recognize he is a minimum performer,...etc/see post

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  • 3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.

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Thread: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

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    Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    A long-time worker who is competent and reliable is worth more than minimum wage. He most likely knows things and has skills or abilities that a new worker would not have. Give him a raise.

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    The only sensible business decision is to pay him competitively with what he could get elsewhere.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    A long-time worker who is competent and reliable is worth more than minimum wage. He most likely knows things and has skills or abilities that a new worker would not have. Give him a raise.
    Ask him where he wants to be in 5 years, and let him know that there likely won't be any promotions coming his way unless he acts like he has a bit more ambition than he currently displays....
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
    Nowhere near enough details to judge. What does the job normally pay in that company? What do similar jobs pay in other companies in the area? What is the local job market like? How is the business doing? All those have significant effects on pay rates.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
    One of the reasons companies create defined pay scales for certain job definitions is to deal with situations just as you've created here. What we do is encourage the employee to gain more skills in other areas so they can then qualify for higher wage opportunities.

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Someone who has been with the company that long and who has not been fired deserves a minimal raise. My company has a guaranteed annual raise based on a performance review. Anyone who fails the review and doesn't qualify for a raise, also doesn't qualify to keep their job. This guy would probably get the minimum possible raise, along with a long list of improvements they need to achieve by review time next year.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nowhere near enough details to judge. What does the job normally pay in that company? What do similar jobs pay in other companies in the area? What is the local job market like? How is the business doing? All those have significant effects on pay rates.
    And yet, "society", through lawmakers are promoting the government, instead of the manager, to force a decision through law with even less information.

    What information do we, as a society really have about these workers? We know they are minimum wage. We know that for some reason, they are stuck at entry level minimum wage jobs as their career. We know that others have used these jobs as entry portals to promotion in that company or used that experience coupled with greater education to seek other careers.

    BTW, if you were that manager, what other information do you feel you need to know?
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And yet, "society", through lawmakers are promoting the government, instead of the manager, to force a decision through law with even less information.

    What information do we, as a society really have about these workers? We know they are minimum wage. We know that for some reason, they are stuck at entry level minimum wage jobs as their career. We know that others have used these jobs as entry portals to promotion in that company or used that experience coupled with greater education to seek other careers.

    BTW, if you were that manager, what other information do you feel you need to know?
    You seem terribly confused. What is good for business is not necessarily good for society. Or good for their workers. You could make the same argument you are making about safety regulations.
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