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  • 1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.

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  • 2. Recognize he is a minimum performer,...etc/see post

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  • 3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
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    there are hundreds if not thousands of jobs that people with average or lower intelligence can do, and still earn middle class wages
    and there are millions of people willing and able to work those jobs. Only some of those people will get those jobs. Who gets those jobs is not just a matter of skill, knowledge and work ethic, there is also a large element of luck and being connected. That is why I don't look down on people who don't gave a good job.

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    This is why I hate the minimum wage. The federal government dictates the worth of this, and many peoples time. I don't like politicians telling me how much my time is worth.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    This is why I hate the minimum wage. The federal government dictates the worth of this, and many peoples time. I don't like politicians telling me how much my time is worth.
    So you're making minimum wage?
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    So you're making minimum wage?
    No. But I have in my lifetime made minimum wage.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    skill/education has nothing to do with wages.

    It is just a way of demeaning people.


    you bill out your "min wage" worker for $50 hour, guess what, $22 in wages, and another $5 for taxes and beni's.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
    He would get a raise as an asset to the company for his long time experience and because his former manager got fired for being a dick to everybody and keeping HIM to minimum wage.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
    If he wants a raise but I don't think he deserves it, I would (and should have already during evaluations) give him a set of goals I'd like him to reach by a certain reasonable target date. I would communicate with him the things I'd think he needs to do better, why and how. I'd recomend he take part time classes. If he meets these goals, which should make my company for profitable, I think a raise and possibly a promotion is in order. If he refuses (and has refused to in the past) without a reasonable explanation I think he is lucky to keep working for me.

    Based on the information offered in the op, namely a long time employee who has demonstrated dedication by his lengthy tenure but has never been offered a raise, I highly suspect he has been treated unfairly by his employer. Simply by virtue of stability, not having to train new staff to replace him, the time and effort it takes to recruit and interview potential candidates to replace him, the adjustments needed when new team members join a new work culture and that affect on morale and productivity thanks to his dedication to the company are worth something, all other things being equal.
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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    really not enough info.....but working with what you posted, i would bring him into my office and ask him why he believes he is due a raise, and let him make his case, and as he does i will counter that argument if i have anything. if he can make a good case for the reason of being paid more, i would give him more......but i don't want to heard...."i just need more money"

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    Re: Making a decision on a Minimum Wage Worker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As a manager, a minimum wage position worker approaches you and asks for a raise. Worker has been in the company for three years. In the work force for 10+ years after high school. Worker has no college, no trade schooling. Worker has only held minimum wage entry level positions during his career. Has never been fired but also has never been graded by supervisor as more than adequate/average, has never been recommended for advancement to higher level/better pay and benefits position.

    As the manager, what would you do?

    1. Deny him the raise but allow him continued employment.
    2. Recognize that he is a minimum performer, a lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, low skill useless POS and send him to unemployment opening the position to new potential workers.
    3. Recognize his contributions to the company and offer him higher wages and benefits.
    4. Recognize that he is a victim of an unfair and unjust society whom the evil owners of companies has oppressed and then offer him CEO wages to perform entry level work at minimum required levels.
    1. What kind of raise is he asking for.
    2. Explain to him what he needs to do to earn a raise.
    3. If he does that, then he's breaking the mold - give it to him, make sure that he gets some other perks as well, and let him know what he would have to do to advance to the next step.

    I'm fine with recognizing people's achievement, but they have to achieve.

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