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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Then you have no interest in living in America.
    All able bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 are in the reserve militia and can be called to duty in an emergency unless they are already in the military in some capacity. All people who become naturalized citizens must pledge to take up arms for the US if the need arizes. Hopefully, they will have enough arms for everyone.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body like Switzerland has? As in every able-bodied adult (except for conscientious objectors) owns and knows how to use a military grade rifle and advanced weaponry is under local civillian control.
    I think that makes about as much sense as a football bat.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Golly, that makes a heck of a lot of sense to me! We can all stand out in the streets with rifles and shoot down those ICBM's as they come in.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body like Switzerland has? As in every able-bodied adult (except for conscientious objectors) owns and knows how to use a military grade rifle and advanced weaponry is under local civillian control.
    Congress recognized early on with the Massachusetts volunteers who were under considerable stress at the Siege of Boston that the U.S. needed a national army under a central authority. That's why it created the Continental Army under Washington's command. Notwithstanding the image of the proud Minutemen at Lexington-Concord or Mel Gibson running around South Carolina taking potshots at the British, it was this army (along with the not locally-controlled French Navy) that defeated Cornwallis at Yorktown.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    All able bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 are in the reserve militia and can be called to duty in an emergency unless they are already in the military in some capacity. All people who become naturalized citizens must pledge to take up arms for the US if the need arizes. Hopefully, they will have enough arms for everyone.
    This may be another example of my being overly nitpicky, but there is no "reserve militia". They are simply the "unorganized" militia. Traditionally, all able bodied persons were expected to participate in regular drills performed by the unorganized militia. IMO we should return to that.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    It's a different world...in the old days you could use conscripts as a major part of your armed forces. I'm not sure how realistic it would be in the modern world.

    I agree with the idea, I think that most Americans have been completely removed from the military and war and service is some foreign concept to a lot of people. I really think that the higher you go up in status and socio-economic level the less likely you are to run into anyone that has served, but an all part time military force would be insanely expensive to train and maintain.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's a different world...in the old days you could use conscripts as a major part of your armed forces. I'm not sure how realistic it would be in the modern world.

    I agree with the idea, I think that most Americans have been completely removed from the military and war and service is some foreign concept to a lot of people. I really think that the higher you go up in status and socio-economic level the less likely you are to run into anyone that has served, but an all part time military force would be insanely expensive to train and maintain.
    What is the expense of what we are doing now?

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You can't maintain global hegemony with a citizen defensive body.
    Right. Imagine for a moment that Franklin, Adams, and Jefferson, instead of paying homage to and seeking financial and military support from an imperialistic, hegemonistic French king at Versailles, had chosen instead to head to the Swiss Alps for the air and majestic views. Isn't it possible that we wouldn't be having this conversation today?
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What is the expense of what we are doing now?
    Oh...it's expensive, I'm not going to disagree with that, but it's very time intensive and expensive to train a brand new recruit.

    I don't disagree with the idea that we have a problem entangling ourselves in every foreign conflict but changing to the US army into a citizen defensive force is pretty extreme.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    All able bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 are in the reserve militia and can be called to duty in an emergency unless they are already in the military in some capacity. All people who become naturalized citizens must pledge to take up arms for the US if the need arizes. Hopefully, they will have enough arms for everyone.
    If we run short on weapons all we will need to do is make a sweep through Texas and we'll be fine.
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