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Thread: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's the point.
    It was sarcastic, I don't need the ****ing hegemony.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're saying the M16 is not a "military grade" weapon, then, even though it's the standard rifle of the military. This would also mean the M9 is not a "military grade" weapon, either, eventhough it's the standard military pistol.

    Are you sure you know enough about this topic to be speaking on it?
    What are you talking about? The M16 would be my ideal choice. No one would be required to own a pistol, I'm just talking about rifles.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    What are you talking about?
    In post #14 you defined "military grade" as meaning full auto. The M16 is not full auto, nore is it issued with large capacity magaziens. The military explicitly forbids use of those magazines, only allowing the standard 30rnd mags. If you want to use 60/100rnd mags in your M16, the military won't let you.

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    The M16 would be my ideal choice. No one would be required to own a pistol, I'm just talking about rifles.
    I'm of the opinion that Artical 1 Section 8 already requires the government to issue an M16 to every able-bodied male between ages 18-41 since according to Title-10 USC that's who's in the unorganized militia.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Why not just a pointed stick?
    A rifle has no use against aircraft, armor, and certainly not against nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why not just a pointed stick?
    A rifle has no use against aircraft, armor, and certainly not against nuclear weapons.
    I personaly witnissed a Polish attack helicopter shot out of the sky by hadjies using AKs. I was stationed with the unit that pilot was from and attended his memorial the next day.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body like Switzerland has? As in every able-bodied adult (except for conscientious objectors) owns and knows how to use a military grade rifle and advanced weaponry is under local civillian control.

    This is the dumbest idea, ever. There isn't even an election coming up soon and these guys are in full force? What gives? Full moon? Shortened month? I'm also getting sick and tired of Americans (I'm assuming) praising Switzerland... I'll write a thread about that one later, though.

    Since when did the buzzword change from militia to citizen defensive body? I missed the memo.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    This is the dumbest idea, ever. There isn't even an election coming up soon and these guys are in full force? What gives? Full moon? Shortened month? I'm also getting sick and tired of Americans (I'm assuming) praising Switzerland... I'll write a thread about that one later, though.

    Since when did the buzzword change from militia to citizen defensive body? I missed the memo.
    Well you're ahead of me since I didn't know "militia" was a buzword at all.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well you're ahead of me since I didn't know "militia" was a buzword at all.
    It is in the Libertarian circles. Also apparently security circles: http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politi...land-security/

    found a better source.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body like Switzerland has? As in every able-bodied adult (except for conscientious objectors) owns and knows how to use a military grade rifle and advanced weaponry is under local civillian control.
    The USA has had continuous war for most of its' history. The weapons manufacturors have been in existence for most of that time. For example, one of the Bush fortunes comes from Walker Arms and has for a hundred years. Just the tip of the iceberg. "War is good business, and business is good." How many more of our bluebloods have a direct lineage to weapons manufacturing? Is that why we have perpetual war?

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why not just a pointed stick?
    A rifle has no use against aircraft, armor, and certainly not against nuclear weapons.
    That's why I said this.
    Quote Originally Posted by RFR View Post
    and advanced weaponry is under local civillian control.
    Although for clarification I do NOT think nukes should be under civillian control.
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