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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Just a fair warning. This is Jerry's M.O. He hones in on completely insignificant things that have no relevance to the topic then baits you into arguing about it. I can already summarize his opinion for you: "If you're not a hardcore national guard POG like me you can get the **** out of America because you're not a real American! Hooah!"

    Glad to see 99% of DP doesn't want our military watered down with worthless low lives who don't want to be there. You know, more than it already is.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Forcing everyone to fight and kill for you is slavery.
    Most people in the military don't fight.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    The United States is not Switzerland. It is not a small country who is surrounded by mountains and who is protected by a host of countries which largely protect the risk of intruders into Switzerland. Tucked in between France, Germany, Italy and Austria and only a limited number of mountain passes into the country, Switzerland is a country with very limited risks.

    Also, Switzerland is neutral and does not protect it's citizens abroad or has wars in which it participates to protect it's interest. In all reality is Switzerland a cowards country, it profits from the risks and military expenses from other countries without risking it's own people or money.

    If the US would have such a strategy China would rule the world and American companies would always come in second to Chinese or other countries. Not something that is desirable in any way shape or form IMHO, and I am not even American.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The United States is not Switzerland. It is not a small country who is surrounded by mountains and who is protected by a host of countries which largely protect the risk of intruders into Switzerland. Tucked in between France, Germany, Italy and Austria and only a limited number of mountain passes into the country, Switzerland is a country with very limited risks.

    Also, Switzerland is neutral and does not protect it's citizens abroad or has wars in which it participates to protect it's interest. In all reality is Switzerland a cowards country, it profits from the risks and military expenses from other countries without risking it's own people or money.

    If the US would have such a strategy China would rule the world and American companies would always come in second to Chinese or other countries. Not something that is desirable in any way shape or form IMHO, and I am not even American.
    Not to mention being unofficially covered by the U.S. nuclear umbrella

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the founders had no problem with a standing army, at that time they believed it should consist of about 25,000 to 30,000 men only.

    if is impossible to have a citizen army only with modern weapons, training must constantly be done.
    If we were to convert to a large militia & small regular Army, the quality and quantity of the resulting training would greatly improve.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That canard again.

    isolationism definition

    The doctrine that a nation should stay out of the disputes and affairs of other nations. The United States practiced a policy of isolationism until World War I and did not pursue an active international policy until after World War II. ( See “ entangling alliances with none.”)

    The American Heritage® New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
    Except, of course, for all those times that it invaded other areas and got into lots of wars with other countries

    A book for anyone who believes that we were isolationist until WWI.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Most people in the military don't fight.
    True, but even in those cases they provide their labor to their employer. If they were forced to provide that labor it would be slavery.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If we were to convert to a large militia, small regular Army, the quality and quantity of the resulting training would greatly improve.
    i agree with the latter, ......but the current situation stills makes our military the best in the world.

    by creating a two fold military, you are creating a more sleek well trained, more motived individuals on 1 hand.... but creating as less then motivated, less skilled, trained individuals of the other.

    i myself would see problems with the two being able to work together well in early stages of cooperation.... if war broke out.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i agree with the latter, ......but the current situation stills makes our military the best in the world.

    by creating a two fold military, you are creating a more sleek well trained, more motived individuals on 1 hand.... but creating as less then motivated, less skilled, trained individuals of the other.

    i myself would see problems with the two being able to work together well in early stages of cooperation.... if war broke out.
    Which one accomplishes the goal of making the common person personally feel the pain of a poorly cast vote?

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    True, but even in those cases they provide their labor to their employer. If they were forced to provide that labor it would be slavery.
    I am forced to pay my bills. Therefore I'm a slave, according to you. And I'm working off debt, so I'm a slave even according to me.

    Therefore I have nothing to lose.

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