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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's all you're allowed to have under the 2nd Amendment.
    Then CNN is only allowed to use one of these:

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    ...time for liberals to take down their high-capacity military-style blogs.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Full-timers do not train every single day. I know the media tells you soldiers wake up at zero-freedom-thirty, run 200 miles in 30 seconds, have a bowl of liberty and go kill terrorists all day, but that's not the real world. Having a full-time military job is 90% like having a regular civilian job with a uniform. Full timers get little to no more training than part-timers.
    it's funny that you actually believe your bull****... or it's sad that you have decided to troll.... not sure which it is, yet.

    the notion that active duty members get no more training than part timers is absolutely, unequivocally false... either you have been severely misled, or you're lying.... there are no other options

    Yes, militia receive professional training. 6 months worth at the beginning, 2 weeks per year, and a weekend per month.
    yes, that's why you're called weekend warriors.



    That is the single most asinine thing I've ever seen you post. You truly have no knowledge on the topic.
    25 years as active duty Marine says i might know a thing or two about being a professional.

    It's literally a greater number of actual hours performing the job, and to a higher standard. If you're a full-timer, you work Tuesday through Friday, 08:00-16:30, and unless you're a pencil pusher you'll spend about half that time actually doing your job. You'll spend the other half performing "other duties as required" like picking up garbage. Whereas if you have a civilian job, you work sun-up to sun-down 5,6,7 days per week, and all of that time is spent doing your actual job. You also have to perform to a higher standard because your employer has money on the line whereas the government fosters a culture of apathy.
    2 weeks a year and 1 weekend a month...and you think you spend more time actually doing he job than full time servicemembers?.. is this a ****ing joke?...does simple math escape you?
    you do the job to a higher standard?...delusional yammerings, nothing more, nothing less.

    I'm glad you spend all that time at your "real job"...if that job as nothing to do with your job as a militia member, it's meaningless to your training or martial acumen.... you might be the very best and productive burger flipper on earth, but burger flippin skills don't translate over, unless you're a cook.

    I'm not sure where you got the notion of working 8 hours a day for 4 days on active duty, but it's very ..very.. wrong...I've never heard of such a garrison schedule, unless additional liberty is awarded, or in the case of a federal holiday in.... or maybe it's an Army thing
    you seem to be missing field training in your bloviating as well... though that doesn't surprise me... accuracy isn't exactly what you are shooting for here.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Then CNN is only allowed to use one of these:

    Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?-cranstonpress1-300x225-jpg

    ...time for liberals to take down their high-capacity military-style blogs.
    Yeah.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    25 years as active duty Marine ...
    Ooh that explains it all right there. See we're talking about milita, and Marines have no such equivalent. The Marine Corps is a whole different animal since they have the Navy to take care of them. The Army, which has the militia, is a complete organism, which means we have all our own pencil pushers. The only way to compare the Marine Corps with the Army is if we regard the entire Navy, not just the Navy's infantry. Person for person the Navy's infantry likely does receive more and better training than the Army as a whole because administrators who aren't expected to ever perform dismounted partoll don't need and therefore don't get all the trigger time. That doesn't mean the Army receives no training and are not professionals, as you claimed.

    So you're using unlike items in addition to claiming that no one in the militia ever receives professional training. Your errors are compounded, but Marines don't train to think in the first place, and you say you were in 25 years, so it behooves me to forgive more of your errors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    2 weeks a year and 1 weekend a month...and you think you spend more time actually doing he job than full time servicemembers?
    Remember to include the civilian job as that's what we were talking about. A part-time guardsman who's a civilian EMT will need to execute his trade far more than a full-time guardsman medic. This is due to a variety of reasons such as the civilian population simply having more people, and more reckless people, who will need emergency services than an Army base. A civilian commercial driver has to be a better operator than an Army driver since the civilian is subject to more DOT regulation and inspection. The Army is exempt from a lot of things when it comes to CMV-type vehicles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm not sure where you got the notion of working 8 hours a day for 4 days on active duty, but it's very ..very.. wrong...
    That's what the full-time National Guard works (remember, we're comparing like items, full-time vs part time with all else being equal, including branch). If we're talking about militia, and you want to compare full-time vs part-time, that means we're looking at full-time Guard vs part-time Guard. You want to compare part-time Guard to full-time Marine, and that's an invalid comparison since they aren't the same thing; they aren't even used in the same way or capable of the same things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I've never heard of such a garrison schedule...
    Because you're thinking Marine Corps, not militia. We're talking about militia, as in the National Guard, not Marine Corps. The Guard operates like the Army, not the Marine Corps, and in the Army we go home at night, not to garrison; as in we go back to our civilian houses in normal neighborhoods, we do not stay on base, not even the full-timers. Most Guard installations are armories (basically a large office suite typically attached to a high-school or collage), not bases, and even those few Guard bases do not have housing at all. If there is an exception, I'm not aware of it. Everyone in the Guard goes home at the end of the day.
    Last edited by Jerry; 02-27-15 at 08:43 AM.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I consider those that desire me as their slave my enemy.
    You don't pay, attend to, offer continuing employment and medical coverage to slaves.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You don't pay, attend to, offer continuing employment and medical coverage to slaves.
    I think if we held parades for them and gave them special license plates, discounts at stores and discounted medical care for life, those slaves would be happy to be slaves.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    Actually the polling would indicate that the majority of the world has a favorable view of the US.

    Opinion of the United States (All) - Indicators Database | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

    Maybe it is because unlike the Russian Federation we maintain our military bases abroad through voluntary treaty rather than imperialistic wars of conquest and annexation.
    America’s international image slipping
    By Bruce Stokes, Special to CNN
    America

    China now more popular than the U.S., poll says
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/worl...poll-says.html

    ‘We the People’ Loses Appeal With People Around the World
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/us...anted=all&_r=0
    Last edited by Montecresto; 02-27-15 at 09:46 AM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    America’s international image slipping
    By Bruce Stokes, Special to CNN
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    I'll worry about our international image after we get the national debt paid off.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    America’s international image slipping
    By Bruce Stokes, Special to CNN
    America

    China now more popular than the U.S., poll says
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/worl...poll-says.html
    This does nothing to change the fact that the majority of the world has a favorable opinion of the United States.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'll worry about our international image after we get the national debt paid off.
    Yes, that would be nice.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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