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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Heh, 427 to 5 with the usual suspects showing their enthusiasm. Can't even win on a forum, tough luck.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This may be another example of my being overly nitpicky, but there is no "reserve militia". They are simply the "unorganized" militia. Traditionally, all able bodied persons were expected to participate in regular drills performed by the unorganized militia. IMO we should return to that.
    "Reserve militia" is what the Militia Act of 1903 (the "Dick Act" after it's sponsor Charles Dick) called those able bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 who were not in the organized militia or the military.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    It's not America's job to be the world's policeman. We oppress our own citizens as well, so I don't really see why nations want our help. Oh right, it's because government itself is oppressive, and oppressors help each other out.

    I don't think it's ethical to force people to join a militia, but a locally and collectively controlled defense force is the best way to preserve a society's freedoms.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree with the idea, I think that most Americans have been completely removed from the military and war and service is some foreign concept to a lot of people. I really think that the higher you go up in status and socio-economic level the less likely you are to run into anyone that has served, but an all part time military force would be insanely expensive to train and maintain.
    I agree with your basic sentiment. I think my sister's family falls into that category. She and her husband are retired from federal service (Commerce and State Departments), but they would have been horrified, I think, if either of their sons had chosen to join the Army or Marines instead of going to college. Maybe the U.S. is destined to end up like the Roman Empire, with Visigoths sacking Washington, D.C. like they did Rome in 410 AD.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, the polling would indicate that most people are confused over the difference between a national defense force, and a belligerent offensive force based all around the world with regular engagement in adventurism.
    Actually the polling would indicate that the majority of the world has a favorable view of the US.

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    Maybe it is because unlike the Russian Federation we maintain our military bases abroad through voluntary treaty rather than imperialistic wars of conquest and annexation.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    If we run short on weapons all we will need to do is make a sweep through Texas and we'll be fine.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think every young man and woman should do at least 2 years of service.
    I never did, but now that we have signed up for endless war. We need to instill a desire to fight.
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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    replacing the military with a civilian militia simply means we could never fight for our own interests, except on our own land.....with troops lacking in professional training.
    even when this nation was quasi-isolationist, our military still fought a lot of lil' wars and battles overseas.

    basically put ....it's not a very bright idea at all.. it's actually pretty stupid.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    replacing the military with a civilian militia simply means we could never fight for our own interests, except on our own land.....with troops lacking in professional training.
    You're not a civilian while on militia orders, and yes, militia go through a lot of training, not the least of which is the exact same basic training as the Army.

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    Re: Who thinks the US military should be replaced with a citizen defensive body?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're not a civilian while on militia orders, and yes, militia go through a lot of training, not the least of which is the exact same basic training as the Army.
    are you speaking of the national guard and armed forces reserves?

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