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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    How does one person starting a business prevent growth?
    What does starting a business have to do with the government taking from one group and giving it to another group?

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

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    You're so worked up you aren't even responding directly. You're just.

    You provide Libs hard numbers and recent historical references and they claim you're not "responding directly"!!!

    It reminds me of the joke about the Lib in the hot air balloon...

    A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

    The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude."

    She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."

    "I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

    "Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."

    The man smiled and responded, "You must be a Democrat."

    "I am," replied the balloonist. "But how did you know?"

    "Well," said the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You've made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect ME to solve your problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now, it's MY fault.
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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    So you would like to see our GDP 6% lower?
    Government Debt Percentage?
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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Thanks for educating me about Venezuela. We have nothing in common with Venezuela then.

    Inflation in Venezuela is clearly due to declining productivity (which is probably because of communism). We don't have such a problem, and we are not communist. Nor is anyone contributing to this thread advocating for reducing productivity or becoming communist.
    Wow, you said you were educated....

    I guess not. Productivity declined l in all sectors LONG before inflation kicked in.

    What caused their inflation to shoot to the highest rates in the world is the fact that they started printing massive amounts of new currency.

    They started printing because their debt reached unsustainable levels, they burned their creditors, ( sesems to be the Progressive thing to do ) and now no one with any sense will lend them a dime.


    Nothing has changed in the real world. In the MMT alternative Universe printing and borrowing grows the economy. But ofcourse its all BS.

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    I think the real issue conservatives have with the way the government handles the economy is one of ethics. Liberal economics is many times unethical because it concerns itself with growth before people, so in short, it basically uses individuals for economic growth. For me, I happen to agree that ethics should be a part of economics, and the government shouldn't just use people and their property to get the results it wants.

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What does starting a business have to do with the government taking from one group and giving it to another group?
    I dunno.

    In the OP, the person said that they were starting a business and noticed an uptick in sales during tax refund season. Someone responded with some non-sense about government taking from one group and giving it to another.
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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I dunno.

    In the OP, the person said that they were starting a business and noticed an uptick in sales during tax refund season. Someone responded with some non-sense about government taking from one group and giving it to another.
    His point was about government spending which tax refunds are not.

    Does government spending cause growth when the money is taken from one place and put another?

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Does government spending cause growth when the money is taken from one place and put another?
    Yes, many times that is how it works.

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    "Well," said the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You've made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect ME to solve your problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position you were in before we met, but somehow, now, it's MY fault.
    One of my favorite parts of liberal economics is that they love to create bubbles in all areas of the economy and then bitch and moan it's all the capitalists fault when the bubble pops.

    Yes, it's my fault you don't understand what you're doing and you created a bubble. Yes, yes, that is totally my fault. Get lost.

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    Re: Does governnent spending produce economic growth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, many times that is how it works.
    How can that be considered growth and not lateral movement?

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