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  • Accusing someone or something of being racist is worse.

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  • Being a racist and accusing someone/something of racism are equally bad.

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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Anyone can be racist.
    Not according to ecofarm and many others... since the system is set up against blacks they can not be racist... only victims.
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Not according to ecofarm and many others... since the system is set up against blacks they can not be racist... only victims.
    Try living in Korea or Japan and you will discover just how fun systemic racism is on the other end.

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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Not according to ecofarm and many others... since the system is set up against blacks they can not be racist... only victims.
    Anyone can be racist, but the effect of that racism on those it targets is directly related to the power of said person.

    If memory servers, it is ecofarm's contention that somehow the very culture of the USA is racist, which makes the lot of anyone not white harder to improve.

    However, even it true, so far as I can tell this does not prevent individual persons of any race from being racist about their own or other races.
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Try living in Korea or Japan and you will discover just how fun systemic racism is on the other end.
    I understand those societies well and know exactly what you mean...
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Anyone can be racist, but the effect of that racism on those it targets is directly related to the power of said person.

    If memory servers, it is ecofarm's contention that somehow the very culture of the USA is racist, which makes the lot of anyone not white harder to improve.

    However, even it true, so far as I can tell this does not prevent individual persons of any race from being racist about their own or other races.
    Agreed on all levels...
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    I someone trolling the polls?

    No way did 159 people vote for that option, in fact I'd bet there haven't even been 159 actual people viewing the thread.
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If memory servers...
    Damnit.

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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I think the answer needs more context.

    IMO, a woman who claims rape when there was none, is just as guilty and "bad" as a man who would've actually raped her.
    And given that I'm talking intent, as in when she uses the rape allegation as a revenge tool, or even to protect her own reputation from her own questionable actions.

    In a similar vein, people who cry racism as a tool are just as bad a racists themselves, and pretty much for the same reasons.
    Respectfully disagree. A woman who falsely claims rape has character and/or psychological problem and should face consequences or get treatment. On the other hand, a rapists is an evil person who has committed probably the most heinous crime possible short of murder or deliberately disfiguring or crippling someone for life. I do not see them as equal. Everybody is different I guess.

    Likewise, IMO, being actually racist is far worse than being falsely accused of it by someone who probably has little credibility.

    Btw. Another topic but very often this issue is characterized by political tribalism where right and wrong is less of a factor and whose side are the principles on is how people align their support or opposition.
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I think the answer needs more context.

    IMO, a woman who claims rape when there was none, is just as guilty and "bad" as a man who would've actually raped her. And given that I'm talking intent, as in when she uses the rape allegation as a revenge tool, or even to protect her own reputation from her own questionable actions.

    In a similar vein, people who cry racism as a tool are just as bad a racists themselves, and pretty much for the same reasons.
    No.

    Being a rapist is far worse than falsely accusing someone of rape.

    That said I think penalties for falsely accusing someone of a crime are necessary. Or perhaps better the ability to sue news organizations who portray a person as guilty before they are convicted. That might cut down on the "guilty until proven innocent" trend that I see in high-profile cases. Or even worse, people considering a person guilty or innocent no matter what the courts say.
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    Re: What's worse: accusing someone of racism or being a racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    This being the time of year when many people honor and reflect upon the heritage and contributions of Americans who are black while others lament the concept as being divisive, I thought I pose this question. What's worse: accusing someone of being a racist or actually being a racist? Confession: The question was inspired by a TV interview show I surfed through this morning.

    Although this is a question I've ponder for some time, I've never heard it put so concisely.

    The question assumes the person accusing someone, some group or some practice of racism as well as the person, group or practice of being racist is the personal opinion of the accuser/observer and no trial by jury has occurred to establish proof beyond a reasonable doubt, just like in real life.
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