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What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

In your opinion, do you view Malcolm X as a positive figure in American history, or a


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my thoughts?

so it would be incredibly hard for me to say he was a positive figure.
his legacy lives on today through every black supremacist/black power group that has existed since the 60's.

though I am sympathetic to a couple of his beliefs( such as armed self defense)... overall, he is a negative figure with an enduring legacy of hate and racism.
 
Negative. On the other hand, Martin Luther King was a wife beater, but I count him as a good influence. So was John Lennon. Difference is Lennon and King Jr. actually helped change and shape society. Had Malcolm had his way, we'd still be segregated.

He woke up and realized that his cult hero was a fraud, and the crap the man preached was a false prophecy. He then spoke out against him. THat alone is worth a huge kudos. Too bad Tom Cruise and that idiot who played Barbarino don't have a similar awakening.
 
So, in net, I would argue his influence was negative. Given his later reversal, however, I consider the man a positive. Hard to admit you were wrong like that.

Reversal? After making the pilgrimage to Mecca he accepted mainstream Islam, leaving Elijah Muhammad and the NoI behind.
 
Negative. On the other hand, Martin Luther King was a wife beater, but I count him as a good influence. So was John Lennon. Difference is Lennon and King Jr. actually helped change and shape society. Had Malcolm had his way, we'd still be segregated.

If I grew up black in America in the fifties, I'd like to think there'd be more Malcolm X than Martin Luther King in my make-up.
 
He woke up and realized that his cult hero was a fraud, and the crap the man preached was a false prophecy. He then spoke out against him. THat alone is worth a huge kudos. Too bad Tom Cruise and that idiot who played Barbarino don't have a similar awakening.

Tom Cruise does need an awakening yes. And yes I do give him kudos for that, but the fact that Malcolm never managed to see the cult for what it was in the first place should be a strong indication of his intellect. To find him in any manner an influence and say such is dangerous to those who are seeking people to become influenced by.
 
He woke up and realized that his cult hero was a fraud, and the crap the man preached was a false prophecy. He then spoke out against him. THat alone is worth a huge kudos. Too bad Tom Cruise and that idiot who played Barbarino don't have a similar awakening.

wait.. Tom Cruise and John Travolta preach hate , violence, and racism?... got a link?
 
If I grew up black in America in the fifties, I'd like to think there'd be more Malcolm X than Martin Luther King in my make-up.

that's true in my case as well....but only on the matter of violent defense.
i've never been one to promote or support racial superiority, and i don't imagine i would if i were black in the 50's either.
 
Actually, a little of both. Good in some respects, bad in others.
 
If I grew up black in America in the fifties, I'd like to think there'd be more Malcolm X than Martin Luther King in my make-up.

What do you even know about growing up in America, much black America in the 50's?
 
Tom Cruise does need an awakening yes. And yes I do give him kudos for that, but the fact that Malcolm never managed to see the cult for what it was in the first place should be a strong indication of his intellect. To find him in any manner an influence and say such is dangerous to those who are seeking people to become influenced by.

Stepping completely away from religion is a tall order. I don't hold it against those who who cling to it.
 
It is hard to be patriotic when your country treats you as less than human.

Maybe he should have moved to The Soviet Union? See how they treated him.
 
Yes, but obviously you're not, because simply mentioning Mein Kampf doesn't apply.

Godwin's law states "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." Mein Kamph is Hitler's manifesto. You compared a book about Malcom X to the manifesto of a genocidal maniac. The fact you would compare the two is absurd.

You want to point fingers and you can't even spell it? How many degrees do you have? :lamo

Oh grow up, people make errors all the time. Are you going to honestly claim you have spelled everything correctly 100% of the time?
 
Maybe he should have moved to The Soviet Union? See how they treated him.

I'm confused. Are you saying he should have just been happy with the way the country treated African Americans because other countries may have treated them worse?
 
Godwin's law states "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." Mein Kamph is Hitler's manifesto. You compared a book about Malcom X to the manifesto of a genocidal maniac. The fact you would compare the two is absurd.

So, you get to amend someone else's words? A little plagiaristic, aren't we?



Oh grow up, people make errors all the time. Are you going to honestly claim you have spelled everything correctly 100% of the time?

I don't and I never hear the end of it. I certainly don't throw my two fake degrees in everyone's face as proof that I'm smarter than the rest of the world. You can thank your Libbos pards.
 
Stepping completely away from religion is a tall order. I don't hold it against those who who cling to it.

Stepping away from Islam is a cause for death, (wont debate it here) so yeah, some kudos. But walking away from it, after you were an adult who found it intriguing (not a child who was indoctrinated since birth into it), and then adhered to it, shows you really weren't that smart to being with.
 
I'm confused. Are you saying he should have just been happy with the way the country treated African Americans because other countries may have treated them worse?

Is that what I said? Its not? I didn't think so.

There's no other country in the world where he could preach hate, the way he did in The United States. Only an idiot would cry about that kind of freedom.
 
So, you get to amend someone else's words? A little plagiaristic, aren't we?

Who's words did I amend? You called a book about Malcom X the black supremacists equivalent to Mein Kampf. Those were your words, not mine and nothing "plagiaristic" about it. (Oh look a misspelling, does that mean I can attack you personally now?)


I don't and I never hear the end of it. I certainly don't throw my two fake degrees in everyone's face as proof that I'm smarter than the rest of the world. You can thank your Libbos pards.

What? I don't have any fake degrees. What on Earth are you even talking about here?
 
Is that what I said? Its not? I didn't think so.

There's no other country in the world where he could preach hate, the way he did in The United States. Only an idiot would cry about that kind of freedom.

Malcolm X spoke against many injustices against African Americans but I don't recall him ever complaining about not having freedom of speech. Your argument amounts to "You shouldn't speak out against the Government because the Government allows you to speak out against it."
 
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