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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    so you have no proof of Tom cruise or John Travolta preaching hate, violence, or racism... or proof of them being involved in any " lies" or events charged in your link

    I figured as much, but i'm glad we could clear that up.


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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    We could use more people like Malcolm X now a days. He was about economic right as well as civil rights. Which is what King was going for, right before they killed him.
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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    bashing Psychiatry,... now the same as preaching hate, violence, racism, and racial supremacy.


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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Stepping away from Islam is a cause for death, (wont debate it here) so yeah, some kudos. But walking away from it, after you were an adult who found it intriguing (not a child who was indoctrinated since birth into it), and then adhered to it, shows you really weren't that smart to being with.
    Had he not been murdered, he may have come to his senses on that part of it too.

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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Had he not been murdered, he may have come to his senses on that part of it too.
    Speculation.

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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What do you even know about growing up in America, much black America in the 50's?
    Um, what? Oh, typo, right?
    I reckon I know as much about being black as you do. As for growing up in America in the '50's, you mean it wasn't like 'Leave It To Beaver'?
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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    my thoughts?

    so it would be incredibly hard for me to say he was a positive figure.
    his legacy lives on today through every black supremacist/black power group that has existed since the 60's.

    though I am sympathetic to a couple of his beliefs( such as armed self defense)... overall, he is a negative figure with an enduring legacy of hate and racism.
    I think a big part of how he is remembered is due to him being killed relatively shortly after his "transformation". We have this long drawn out record of violence with only a short piece of recanting. From the distance of time it appears that one far outweighs the other, and I think it would have been interesting to have observed how he would have done had he not been killed.

    While I don't go for his previous violent teachings, I am kind of sympathetic to him in that he was an extremely intelligent man in a time and place that didn't tolerate intelligent black men.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    He certainly evolved in his views. As someone else pointed out, had I been a black man in that time period, I would have been more Malcolm and less Martin.

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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    bashing Psychiatry,... now the same as preaching hate, violence, racism, and racial supremacy.

    Comparing speech to actual acts of kidnapping, denying medical treatment, beatings, child abuse...

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    Re: What Are Your Personal Thoughts On Malcolm X

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Speculation.
    Religion is like that though. Most people cling to theirs until they die...and, no. Not all of them were born into it. Many found their "jesus" as adults.

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