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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Really?

    Richest states (areas)
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    2. New Jersey
    3. Connecticut
    4. Maryland
    5. Massachusetts
    6. Alaska
    7. Minnesota
    8. Delaware
    9. California / Virginia


    Poorest states:
    1. Mississippi
    2. West Virginia
    3. Alabama
    4. South Carolina
    5. New Mexico
    6. Kentucky
    7. Idaho
    8. Arkansas
    9. Montana
    10. Maine

    Well, it would seem that liberal states are also the richest states and a lot of conservatives states are in the ranking of the poorest states. Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi are among the 10 most conservatives states.

    In fact, if you view moderate and liberal 10 biggest states, Alaska (M), New Jersey (M), Delaware (L), Washington DC (L), Connecticut (L), Maryland (M), Massachusetts (L), Minnesota (not in the top 10 but also a liberal/moderate state, governor DFL, lieutenant gov DFL, 2 senators DFL, house delegation 5 DFL and 3 R, since 1980 they have voted for the democratic candidate for president), California (M/L).

    Virginia, according to the poll has 39% C, 37% M and 20% L

    Now looking at the poorest states, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, Idaho are in the top 10 conservative states, but West Virginia 44% conservatives, South Carolina 44% conservatives, New Mexico 39% C, Kentucky 41% C, Montana 44% C, Maine 36% C

    Sorry, but on evidence, the Richest states seem to be more moderate/liberal states and the poorest states conservative, or more conservative states.
    These arguments are silly for various reasons but calling a state "liberal" or "conservative" is almost completely meaningless, calling a state "rich" without any context to cost of living is even more meaningless, and most of the "wealth" from areas in your richest states are from 200+ years of building up the areas which have virtually nothing to do with current political trends.

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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas
    Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespondent
    This reads like nothing more then a liberal hit piece to avenge Brian Williams. Mother Jones, which is hardly unbiased itself, is using The Falklands (Islands) and The Falklands (War) interchangeably to make it look like O'Reilly said he was on The Falklands Island when he said he was covering The Falklands War in Argentina. The best case scenario is the paper is genuinely unaware there is a place and war called The Falklands but that's pretty far fetched. I suspect it's more likely the paper is purposefully conflating the two to mislead readers.

    It's certainly possible no one pointed a gun at him but, unlike with Brian Williams, there doesn't actually seem to be anyone saying it didn't happen. There's just Mother Jones kind of insinuating it's a lie because, ya know, Bill O'Reilly is a liar.

    It's fine if you're just extremely partisan and uninterested if a paper is lying to you for the sake of criticizing the "other guys" but anyone actually comparing about journalistic integrity should probably roll their eyes at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    This reads like nothing more then a liberal hit piece to avenge Brian Williams. Mother Jones, which is hardly unbiased itself, is using The Falklands (Islands) and The Falklands (War) interchangeably and to make it look like O'Reilly is saying he was on The Falklands Island instead of covering The Falklands War. The best case scenario is the paper is genuinely unaware there is a place and was a war called The Falklands but that's pretty far fetched. I suspect it's more likely the paper is purposefully doing so to mislead readers. It's certainly possible no one pointed a gun at him but, unlike with Brian Williams, there doesn't actually seem to be anyone saying it didn't happen. There's just Mother Jones kind of insinuating it's a lie because, ya know, Bill O'Reilly is a liar.

    It's fine if you're just extremely partisan and uninterested if a paper is lying to you for the sake of criticizing the "other guys" but anyone actually comparing about journalistic integrity should probably roll their eyes at this.
    LOL.

    I think you're confused. MJ is pointing out that *O'Reilly* is confusing (and interchanging) the Falkland Islands with the Falklands War, as evidenced by his bragging about covering the war 'in combat' snd 'in the war zone' where 'many people were killed' and he heroically saved a cameraman that no one remembers getting hurt.
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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As do MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN viewers. No one gets to claim the high ground.
    In other words, the reality outside of Fox News is liberal. Thanks for acknowledging this.

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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Ole Bill O'Rielly. will lie without giving it a second thought! ijs

    http://youtu.be/W7UGC3quedc

    I forgot to make a poll.sorry
    Probably not. O'Reilly is a commentator who gives his opinion. He's not a newscaster.

    Are you going to stop watching him?
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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Ole Bill O'Rielly. will lie without giving it a second thought! ijs

    Does Bill O'Reilly Have His Own Brian Williams Problem? - YouTube

    I forgot to make a poll.sorry
    Probably not. O'Reilly is a commentator who gives his opinion. He's not a newscaster.

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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    These arguments are silly for various reasons but calling a state "liberal" or "conservative" is almost completely meaningless, calling a state "rich" without any context to cost of living is even more meaningless, and most of the "wealth" from areas in your richest states are from 200+ years of building up the areas which have virtually nothing to do with current political trends.
    Well, I did not name them as the richest and poorest states, that was done by Forbes.

    The Richest And Poorest States In 2014 - Forbes

    And they used Wallethub who decided to rank the states by:

    To determine the richest and poorest states in the U.S., personal finance site WalletHub evaluated the 50 states and the District of Columbia according to income, GDP per capita, and tax dollars per capita, using data from the U.S. Census Bureau, U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Income was weighted doubly, with five income brackets receiving scores ranging from -1 to 2.5, while GDP and taxes received half-weights. Several states earned identical rankings and tied for one place.
    And the determination conservative or liberal comes from the Time website who got their information from gallup

    Poll: Alabama Most Conservative State in the Union, Massachusetts Most Liberal | TIME.com

    And you may call it completely meaningless to call a state liberal or conservative, I think it is even more ridiculous to describe progressives (aka libtards as some republican love to call them) as:

    they're progressives because they're naïve and idealistic), really poor (they're progressives because they want free handouts), or really strung out on drugs (they're progressives because they're pot-smoking ex-hippies who can't let go of the freewheeling LSD-induced dreams of their John Lennon inspired youth)
    and conservatives as:

    Conservatives, on the other hand, are typically people with life experience, jobs, and a sense of personal responsibility. Those people are not going to be as naïve and easy to manipulate.
    as was done in a post, which was the reason for my post that you responded to.

    Also, it was the people in the states I labelled conservative/liberal themselves who called themselves conservative, liberal or moderate. And when 50.6% of people in a state say that they are conservatives, it is a conservative state IMHO.

    Alabama, North Dakota, Wyoming Most Conservative States
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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirres...

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    LOL.

    I think you're confused. MJ is pointing out that *O'Reilly* is confusing (and interchanging) the Falkland Islands with the Falklands War, as evidenced by his bragging about covering the war 'in combat' snd 'in the war zone' where 'many people were killed' and he heroically saved a cameraman that no one remembers getting hurt.
    If that's the case then why do so many of the damning quotations MJ gives us as "evidence" of trying to mislead the public into thinking he was on the Falkland Islands specify he was in Argentina? If you're looking to hang your hat on anything for the sake of partisan politics then I guess you can crow about him being "in combat" when he was just in the middle of the military cracking down on dissent but that seems to be nitpicking to me.

    I don't really care about Bill O'Reilly or the political "right" in general but this article looks like it was written to appeal to people who are just looking for something - ANYTHING - to criticize the other "guys" with.
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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirrespond

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, I did not name them as the richest and poorest states, that was done by Forbes.

    The Richest And Poorest States In 2014 - Forbes

    And they used Wallethub who decided to rank the states by:



    And the determination conservative or liberal comes from the Time website who got their information from gallup

    Poll: Alabama Most Conservative State in the Union, Massachusetts Most Liberal | TIME.com

    And you may call it completely meaningless to call a state liberal or conservative, I think it is even more ridiculous to describe progressives (aka libtards as some republican love to call them) as:



    and conservatives as:



    as was done in a post, which was the reason for my post that you responded to.

    Also, it was the people in the states I labelled conservative/liberal themselves who called themselves conservative, liberal or moderate. And when 50.6% of people in a state say that they are conservatives, it is a conservative state IMHO.

    Alabama, North Dakota, Wyoming Most Conservative States
    I'm really not sure why you felt the need to post any of this stuff.

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    Re: Will Fox News discipline Bill O'Reilly for lying about his war history cirres...

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    If that's the case then why do so many of the damning quotations MJ gives us as "evidence" of trying to mislead the public into thinking he was on the Falkland Islands specify he was [b]in Argentina
    ? If you're looking to hang your hat on anything for the sake of partisan politics then I guess you can crow about him being "in combat" when he was just in the middle of the military cracking down on dissent but that seems to be nitpicking to me.

    I don't really care about Bill O'Reilly or the political "right" in general but this article looks like it was written to appeal to people who are just looking for something - ANYTHING - to criticize the other "guys" with.[/QUOTE]

    I think it was done, in part, to contrast his statements against his diatribe about Brian Williams. You know: pot, kettle,black. That kind of thing.
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