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In Syria, they would exist
In some respects, the Islamic State is a new name on an old face, with a bit more extremism. But clearly, this group of organised criminals would not be going about the Middle East conducting the campaign that they are. Obviously though, this poll is another attempt to blame this very real problem completely on the Bush administration when the last few decades of USFP in the region has been contributing to the radicalisation and emboldenment of these groups, and the last 7 years in particular have undoubtedly been the most damaging to security and stability in the region. With Hussein, Mubarak Gaddafi and Assad, we had containment. Those figures are absent, and with that is the direct correlation in the rise of Islamic extremism.
Is it the we shouldn't remove one genocidal mass murdering dictator because someone slightly less worse and evil than the dictator might take his place argument?
I don't know when we are going to learn. In the last 30 years we have yet to have a single military operation in the Middle East that had a positive long term result.
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You mean the wonderful Saddam Hussein, pro-American man of peace and human rights justice? :roll:
Not really. ISIL grew out of the left-over leadership of AQI.
That most probably means that Saddam would have allied with ISIS.
Probably not. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but to some extent he kept order. And I think if the people of Iraq had gotten rid of him like nearly every other country in the world got rid of their tyrannical government, with a bottom-up peoples' revolution, we wouldn't see alot of the instability we see there today. Having the United States World Police swoop in and yank him out of his seat before the people of Iraq were ready for that really did them a disservice. It left a power vacuum...which was happily filled by ISIS.
Probably not. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but to some extent he kept order. And I think if the people of Iraq had gotten rid of him like nearly every other country in the world got rid of their tyrannical government, with a bottom-up peoples' revolution, we wouldn't see alot of the instability we see there today. Having the United States World Police swoop in and yank him out of his seat before the people of Iraq were ready for that really did them a disservice. It left a power vacuum...which was happily filled by ISIS.
The real question is whose bright idea was it to overthrow Assad? Those are the idiots that are responsible for this.
The real question is whose bright idea was it to overthrow Assad? Those are the idiots that are responsible for this.
Mornin Steel.Ooooh, Oooh, I got it! That would be those alleged Arabian Knights in white shining cloth even whiter than Clorox with bleach. The Saud!!!!! :mrgreen:
No the real question is who's bright idea was it to remove every last remnant of American militarily assets out of Iraq ?
The idiot that decided that is responsible for this.
Interesting factoid....its the same idiot who decided to overthrow Assad.
Do you have a reference that states it was Obama's idea? I don't mean one that demonstrates he went along with it. I want one that demonstrates it was actually his idea.