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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That most probably means that Saddam would have allied with ISIS.
    No, he exterminated any threats. Even when they were not threats, just thought they could be.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But prior to Obama's failure to negotiate a SOFA with Iraq who knew about them ?

    And where they a threat ?
    Iraq refused to sign on to what the US wanted. That ended any agreement.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    In some respects, the Islamic State is a new name on an old face, with a bit more extremism. But clearly, this group of organised criminals would not be going about the Middle East conducting the campaign that they are. Obviously though, this poll is another attempt to blame this very real problem completely on the Bush administration when the last few decades of USFP in the region has been contributing to the radicalisation and emboldenment of these groups, and the last 7 years in particular have undoubtedly been the most damaging to security and stability in the region. With Hussein, Mubarak Gaddafi and Assad, we had containment. Those figures are absent, and with that is the direct correlation in the rise of Islamic extremism.
    Not all at the feet of US Policy- Religious hatred- corruption- no legal system aside from an assured judgement of guilty - a host of issues that are laid at the feet of the respective dictatorships. And that is just a few.
    US involvement is a small issue not the major issues that cause this.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    No, he exterminated any threats. Even when they were not threats, just thought they could be.
    He couldn't exterminate anything in the no-fly zone. How many times do in have to point that out?

    Also, we have no idea that he wouldn't ally with ISIS.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    ISIS cut their teeth on killing Americans in Iraq. There would be no upset balance of power between Sunni's and Shia, no revolution in Syria and no ISIS if we had left Saddam in power. Actions have consequences and Bush had no clue when he overthrew Saddam.
    That's nothing more than speculation. ISIS could have just as easily cut their teeth in Afghanistan.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Not all at the feet of US Policy- Religious hatred- corruption- no legal system aside from an assured judgement of guilty - a host of issues that are laid at the feet of the respective dictatorships. And that is just a few.
    US involvement is a small issue not the major issues that cause this.
    But, not the terrorists? They're in no way to blame?
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Iraq refused to sign on to what the US wanted. That ended any agreement.
    Iraq was never in a position to make any demands.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Err, didn't Obama draw a red line in the sand hemming in Syria's Assad? Up until then, wasn't ISIS in Syria pretty well contained and stalemated? Or even the Assad regime gaining ground?
    The Rubicon had already been crossed by that time.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Syrian regime change is a USFP that predates Obama.

    Exclusive: President Obama plans to violate international law by launching airstrikes inside Syria without that government’s consent, even though Syria might well give it. Is Obama playing into neocon hands by providing a new argument for “regime change” in Damascus, asks Robert Parry.

    Official Washington’s ever-influential neoconservatives and their “liberal interventionist” allies see President Barack Obama’s decision to extend U.S. airstrikes against Islamic State terrorists into Syria as a new chance to achieve the long-treasured neocon goal of “regime change” in Damascus.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/1...e-change-plan/
    I find it so amazing how the militarist neoconservatives and that R2P liberal crowd seem to go together like hand and glove. Amazing.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It was also a mistake for the USA to invade Iraq in the First Gulf War.The USA had no vital interests there and should have stayed out of that kerfuffle.
    At least they had the sense to go in and get the hell out.

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