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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The fact is we can't know what things would be like if Saddam Hussein were still in power.
    But of course we can, and how very foolish of Bush to think how neat it would be to find out what things would be like without him in power.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    One of many embarrassing moments stemming from the election of a Jr Senator with radical underpinnings.


    That's your opinion which I and quite a few others will ignore.




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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No ISIS would not exist. There manifestation is one reason why
    it was a big mistake to have invaded Iraq in 2002.


    It was also a mistake for the USA to invade Iraq in the First Gulf War.The USA had no vital interests there and should have stayed out of that kerfuffle.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It was also a mistake for the USA to invade Iraq in the First Gulf War.The USA had no vital interests there and should have stayed out of that kerfuffle.
    Heya SN. What about the Kurds.....do you think they were an interest?

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya SN. What about the Kurds.....do you think they were an interest?
    No. People's are never US interest unless that cause can be used to protect real interests.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No. People's are never US interest unless that cause can be used to protect real interests.
    The Iraq War Was a Good Idea, If You Ask the Kurds
    They love George W. Bush for liberating them, but their region's relative stability might not last
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    But a tour through Iraq exposes what happens when America does, in fact, intervene militarily, and so it must have come as a relief to the amigos when they arrived in Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. It's been ten years since the U.S.-led invasion, and most will observe the anniversary by remembering the dead and evaluating mistakes. Things are a little different in Iraqi Kurdistan, the northernmost autonomous region where the "invasion" is still referred to -- insistently -- as a "liberation."

    It's a strange, parallel universe in which American ideals like freedom from tyranny and economic promise are more intact than they are in America, as is the belief that those ideals can be spread and won through war. Some say that admiration for Americans runs so high that among the younger generation are Kurds named "Bush." I've never met such a child (nor have I ever met anyone who has) but it's plenty surreal that, as the amigos gleefully tweeted, Iraqi Kurds like Americans.....snip~

    The Iraq War Was a Good Idea, If You Ask the Kurds - The Atlantic



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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya SN. What about the Kurds....
    .do you think they were an interest?


    Supposedly the idea was to restore freedom Kuwait, which never had real freedom to start with- it was and is a monarchy ruled by an emir.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Nobody really knows and in any case we don't have a time machine to make this happen.
    yup.. that's it in a nutshell..

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    This is like someone asking a drunk girl at a party a question. This question is to complicated for any of us to fully grasp.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Iraq War Was a Good Idea, If You Ask the Kurds
    They love George W. Bush for liberating them, but their region's relative stability might not last
    .....

    But a tour through Iraq exposes what happens when America does, in fact, intervene militarily, and so it must have come as a relief to the amigos when they arrived in Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. It's been ten years since the U.S.-led invasion, and most will observe the anniversary by remembering the dead and evaluating mistakes. Things are a little different in Iraqi Kurdistan, the northernmost autonomous region where the "invasion" is still referred to -- insistently -- as a "liberation."

    It's a strange, parallel universe in which American ideals like freedom from tyranny and economic promise are more intact than they are in America, as is the belief that those ideals can be spread and won through war. Some say that admiration for Americans runs so high that among the younger generation are Kurds named "Bush." I've never met such a child (nor have I ever met anyone who has) but it's plenty surreal that, as the amigos gleefully tweeted, Iraqi Kurds like Americans.....snip~

    The Iraq War Was a Good Idea, If You Ask the Kurds - The Atlantic


    There's always winners and losers in war. The couple hundred thousand that died during the Iraq war, certainly were not the winners. And I don't recall anything in Colin Powell's presentation before the UN, or anybody in BushCo, making the case for war in Iraq based upon any concern for the Kurds, short of exploiting those killed by Saddam with US supplied WMD.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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