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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think you're both saying the same thing.

    Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq when Saddam was the leader.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Here's a better and more relevant question.

    Would ISIS exist if Obama had not pulled every last remnant of American Military personnel out of Iraq ?
    Most definitely ISIS would still exist. ISIS stated their jihad in Syria not Iraq.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Allying--which is what I said--isnt the same as sharing power. But, let's go back to what I said earlier, if ISIS invaded northern Iraq, there's nothing Saddam would have been able to do to stop them, since that area was withing the no fly zone.
    ISIS cut their teeth on killing Americans in Iraq. There would be no upset balance of power between Sunni's and Shia, no revolution in Syria and no ISIS if we had left Saddam in power. Actions have consequences and Bush had no clue when he overthrew Saddam.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    If your aunt was a man s/he would be your auncle, eh?

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Here's a better and more relevant question.

    Would ISIS exist if Obama had not pulled every last remnant of American Military personnel out of Iraq ?


    Or if Bush hadn't invaded Iraq which was no threat to the USA and caused the death of thousands of Sunni people whose relatives, friends and fellow tribesmen are now looking for some pay-back.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You mean the wonderful Saddam Hussein, pro-American man of peace and human rights justice?


    The guy that Donald Rumsfeld shook hands with.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the answer is, and can only be... I don't know.


    Nobody really knows and in any case we don't have a time machine to make this happen.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But prior to
    Obama's failure to negotiate a SOFA with Iraq
    who knew about them ?

    And where they a threat ?


    That was also Iraq's failure to negotiate a SOFA with the USA.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    The fact is we can't know what things would be like if Saddam Hussein were still in power.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq when Saddam was the leader.
    I know, but they followed the US in, and then, post Saddam, ex Baathists joined up with them. AQI, is al Qaeda in Iraq as you know.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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