In some respects, the Islamic State is a new name on an old face, with a bit more extremism. But clearly, this group of organised criminals would not be going about the Middle East conducting the campaign that they are. Obviously though, this poll is another attempt to blame this very real problem completely on the Bush administration when the last few decades of USFP in the region has been contributing to the radicalisation and emboldenment of these groups, and the last 7 years in particular have undoubtedly been the most damaging to security and stability in the region. With Hussein, Mubarak Gaddafi and Assad, we had containment. Those figures are absent, and with that is the direct correlation in the rise of Islamic extremism.
Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy
Before ANYONE accuses me of admiring or supporting these kind of tactics, keep in mind that I HATE them, but I also recognize that they can produce positive results for the short term that can lead to a stable nation. If I was put into one of these kind of States, I'd be one of the guys looking to remove the autocrats.
Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush
Nope, dictators don't like competition.
They would have been brutally suppressed, and in time, eradicated before gaining any sort of international infamy.
These Islamic autocrats were good at dealing with these brutes, especially since they don't/didn't have any rules to play by.
"I am not among those who fear the people. They and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1816 "[F]acts are before ideas." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1882
I'm going to say yes but you wouldn't know them by that name. You'd know them as the baathist party officers of Saddam's army.
Would ISIS exist if Saddam were still in power? - No.
We attacked Al Qaeda and then we attacked Iraq and then we attacked ISIS and then we attacked...
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump