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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Not all at the feet of US Policy- Religious hatred- corruption- no legal system aside from an assured judgement of guilty - a host of issues that are laid at the feet of the respective dictatorships. And that is just a few.
    US involvement is a small issue not the major issues that cause this.
    There are other factors at work in the Middle East that are not under US control, true. But I speak to what is. The Bush era NIE concludes that the US invasion and occupation of Iraq has caused a sharp increase in terrorism and made the US less safe. Argue with that if you will.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, not the terrorists? They're in no way to blame?
    Try harder with the bait.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There are other factors at work in the Middle East that are not under US control, true. But I speak to what is. The Bush era NIE concludes that the US invasion and occupation of Iraq has caused a sharp increase in terrorism and made the US less safe. Argue with that if you will.
    Speaking to one set of issues, well does not address all the problems. It is like blaming Bob, but John who was equally or more so at fault gets a pass.
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    Hillary is the only defense I or anyone else needs.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iraq was never in a position to make any demands.
    Check it out- see for yourself.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Try harder with the bait.
    Blaming the terrorists for...uh...terrorism is bait?
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Blaming the terrorists for...uh...terrorism is bait?
    Nope- because I missed mentioning them. Do you want a discussion or not.
    Back to you.
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    Hillary is the only defense I or anyone else needs.
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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Nope- because I missed mentioning them. Do you want a discussion or not.
    Back to you.
    That's why I'm here. Care to stop blaming everyone for terrorism, but the terrorists?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    That is an interesting question. ISIS formed in Syria as a result of their civil war. I don't think if Saddam was still there the Iraqi Army would have beat feet like they did. They would have stood and fought and most likely ISIS would have been driven back into Syria. It definitely would be a whole different ballgame.

    Getting rid of the competent leaders of Iraq's army in my opinion had more to do with today's situation than whether Saddam was still there or not. That coupled with Maliki's promoting his friends and fellow Shia, those loyal to him over competence. I think ISIS in Iraq has more to do with Maliki than whether or not Saddam was still around.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    Actually thinking about this, I would add that ISIS would exist today whether Saddam was still there or not. But probably would be confined to Syria. They wouldn't be in Iraq, but they would be flexing their muscle in Syria and Libya and probably a couple of other countries.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Would ISIS exist today if Saddam Hussein was still in power?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why I'm here. Care to stop blaming everyone for terrorism, but the terrorists?
    When have I ever not held them accountable.
    Now prove your claim.
    Or do you have the character to man up and say you made a mistake?
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    Not once have I showed my dick to a woman and she thought it was creepy. In fact, in 100% of the cases, they were pretty excited about it. I don't know who you're showing your **** too.

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