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Is Biden too touchy feely? [W:74]

Is Biden too touchy feely in social settings?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 53.1%
  • No

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Who cares

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
    32
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Does she look a bit uncomfortable to you? View attachment 67180638.

This is after delivering the oath for the new Defense Secretary Ashton Carter.

Some people are touchy/feely some aren't. I personally don't like physical contact or standing too close to someone I don't know. Others are the complete opposite, a pat on the back, squeeze of the shoulder, lean in when they talk. I don't think it's creepy, unless you honestly thing Biden is making a pass at a married women in front of her husband and camera's. If that's the case, the Onion Joe Biden articles are hard hitting journalism instead of just satire.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Would have been great to see the husband turn around and tell him to "get your hands off my wife".
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

I was just listening to an NBC audio clip reporting that she was actually asked about it--I can't imagine doing that as a reporter but oh well--and she said she was neither uncomfortable and didn't think anything about it. Joe is that way with everybody.

Don't get me wrong. I've been aware of and watching Joe Biden since the 1970's and was even a fan until he decided to sell out principle for political expediency. He has in the past been known to be a ladies man and didn't exactly follow the customary rules for Catholic courtship when wooing his wives and his many political and social gaffes are legendary. But he has remained pretty scandal free with no rumors of misconduct except for that plagiarism thing in 2008. He is now 72 years old. I don't think Stephanie Carter was uncomfortable in that scene.

Thanks for sharing, and good point about him never being in a scandal/affair!? I also don't think most would answer that question honestly(publicly) b/c of the awkward position it would put them in. By no means am I saying she's lying, just that it wouldn't be wise(for her) to make a big stink out of it, even if she did feel uncomfortable.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

So was this. Wouldn't you agree?

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What does George W Bush have to do with Joe Biden?
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Well that clears up the whole debate really. If she is cool with it, then it's all good. I wouldn't be but to each their own.

The photo of the Carters and Bidens I posted up there is another illustration that could be really misinterpreted if somebody wasn't there to see the whole scene. Both my husband and I are huggers and affectionately (and perfectly innocuously) touch people too. As do many of our friends. So if it was a close friend, I don't think I would likely have been uncomfortable in that scene. If it was somebody I didn't know well, then yes, I would have been uncomfortable. But again the Bidens and Carters have been social friends for a long time now.

When President Bush, also a hands on guy, touch/feely type who has never been accused of improprieties in that department, impulsively and inappropriately put his hands on Angela Merkel's shoulders, he did really screw up. She was obviously uncomfortable and he was no doubt very embarrassed. But creepy? No. Just quintessential Bush.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

So you want this to be about me, Joe? Go find out Mr Carter's response to your questions.

Not necessarily about you, per se, but about your outrageously insecure response.

I guess the real issue I was addressing was the frightened and jealous perspective from which one would have to view the image to make the kind of childish comment you made.

So no, not about "you", but about the type of "you" that would make the comment you did.

Like the editor at the Daily Caller who ran this article:

Biden Whispers In Defense Secretary's Ear | The Daily Caller

The woman is a workout junky who runs marathons, a partner at a multi-billion dollar venture capital firm, and has been to Afghanistan to visit front line combat troops.

Not exactly the kind of shrinking violet who needs an insecure full-grown babyman with daddy issues of his own to "defend" her from her friends.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Would have been great to see the husband turn around and tell him to "get your hands off my property".

Fixed that for you.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

The photo of the Carters and Bidens I posted up there is another illustration that could be really misinterpreted if somebody wasn't there to see the whole scene. Both my husband and I are huggers and affectionately (and perfectly innocuously) touch people too. As do many of our friends. So if it was a close friend, I don't think I would likely have been uncomfortable in that scene. If it was somebody I didn't know well, then yes, I would have been uncomfortable. But again the Bidens and Carters have been social friends for a long time now.

When President Bush, also a hands on guy, touch/feely type who has never been accused of improprieties in that department, impulsively and inappropriately put his hands on Angela Merkel's shoulders, he did really screw up. She was obviously uncomfortable and he was no doubt very embarrassed. But creepy? No. Just quintessential Bush.

I have no objection to Biden getting touchy feely with his friends or his wife's friends or his friends' wives. Not sure what anyone would care what Biden does socially as it's not any of our business.

What is creepy to me about that picture is that it lacks what should be obvious decorum. I don't care if one of my friend's husbands hugs me or jokingly gooses me in a social setting. I don't care what Biden does with his friends in social settings. This wasn't a social setting. This was at the swearing in of the country's new Defense Secretary. There is a massive distinction.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

What does George W Bush have to do with Joe Biden?



Don't you know? Everything relates to George W. Bush. If Barrack play golf and someone comments on the optics of it at that time, you will see new threads about GW's vacations.

So long as Bush did it, it's OK in the Obama play book.

That's the "change" thingy.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Does she look a bit uncomfortable to you? View attachment 67180638.

This is after delivering the oath for the new Defense Secretary Ashton Carter.

She looks like she is trying to decide whether to punch Ol' Joe in the nose or to elbow him in the nuts.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Fixed that for you.

I don't look at women as property, and editing others quotes is looked down upon here. I say what I mean and mean what I say.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Not necessarily about you, per se, but about your outrageously insecure response.

I guess the real issue I was addressing was the frightened and jealous perspective from which one would have to view the image to make the kind of childish comment you made.

So no, not about "you", but about the type of "you" that would make the comment you did.

Like the editor at the Daily Caller who ran this article:

Biden Whispers In Defense Secretary's Ear | The Daily Caller

The woman is a workout junky who runs marathons, a partner at a multi-billion dollar venture capital firm, and has been to Afghanistan to visit front line combat troops.

Not exactly the kind of shrinking violet who needs an insecure full-grown babyman with daddy issues of his own to "defend" her from her friends.
Maybe you were not taught well. You NEVER lay hands on another mans wife/significant other.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Would have been great to see the husband turn around and tell him to "get your hands off my wife".

Even though Ash had his arm around Jill Biden? See Post #14. As it was a photo op that they all knew would be published, it is pretty safe to assume this was not intended to be provocative or a wife swapping kind of thing.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Don't you know? Everything relates to George W. Bush. If Barrack play golf and someone comments on the optics of it at that time, you will see new threads about GW's vacations.

So long as Bush did it, it's OK in the Obama play book.

That's the "change" thingy.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is alive and well. We can't even get through 3 pages of a thread about Joe Biden without "Look what Busssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh did!"
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Does she look a bit uncomfortable to you? View attachment 67180638.

This is after delivering the oath for the new Defense Secretary Ashton Carter.

I don't know - what was he doing? Patting her on the shoulders and telling her something for like a split second isn't hte same as leaving his hands there, feeling her shoulders as he whispered something slow and long in her ear.

One is just whatever - the other is the type of thing I will physically shrug away from even in front of others. ASMR effect and all - can't stand that ****.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Even though Ash had his arm around Jill Biden? See Post #14. As it was a photo op that they all knew would be published, it is pretty safe to assume this was not intended to be provocative or a wife swapping kind of thing.

Photo op, showing solidarity. That's one thing. Hanging on my wife while I give what is my acceptance speech is another.
I guess manners is just plain out the window all the way to the white house now.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

I don't look at women as property...

Or at least that's what you like to tell people.

...and editing others quotes is looked down upon here.

I don't see anything in the rules expressly forbidding it.

So I guess I'd like to know what you mean by "it's looked down on here"?

I say what I mean and mean what I say.

or at least that's what you like to tell people.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

I have no objection to Biden getting touchy feely with his friends or his wife's friends or his friends' wives. Not sure what anyone would care what Biden does socially as it's not any of our business.

What is creepy to me about that picture is that it lacks what should be obvious decorum. I don't care if one of my friend's husbands hugs me or jokingly gooses me in a social setting. I don't care what Biden does with his friends in social settings. This wasn't a social setting. This was at the swearing in of the country's new Defense Secretary. There is a massive distinction.

I know, but when have you known Joe Biden to think before he speaks or acts? Right or wrong, he has always been and will always be just Joe doing whatever pops into his head at the moment. I just can't believe he was playing to the cameras or even thinking about the cameras at the time, and he certainly wasn't thinking about how it might look in a photo. I think he was just being himself.

Nobody has ripped the VP more than I have when I think he is off base or destructive in what he says here and around the world. Like I said before, I was once a fan but haven't been a fan for some time now. But here I think he's getting a bum rap. Should he worry more about how it might look? Sure. Will he think about it next time? Given his track record, unlikely.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Even though Ash had his arm around Jill Biden? See Post #14. As it was a photo op that they all knew would be published, it is pretty safe to assume this was not intended to be provocative or a wife swapping kind of thing.

What does the picture in post #14 have to do with anything? That isn't Ash Carter in the top picture with his arm around Jill Biden. Am I confused?
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

I know, but when have you known Joe Biden to think before he speaks or acts? Right or wrong, he has always been and will always be just Joe doing whatever pops into his head at the moment. I just can't believe he was playing to the cameras or even thinking about the cameras at the time, and he certainly wasn't thinking about how it might look in a photo. I think he was just being himself.

Nobody has ripped the VP more than I have when I think he is off base or destructive in what he says here and around the world. Like I said before, I was once a fan but haven't been a fan for some time now. But here I think he's getting a bum rap. Should he worry more about how it might look? Sure. Will he think about it next time? Given his track record, unlikely.

"Joe just being Joe" isn't a reason not to point out that this was not a social setting or a cocktail party, and the 2nd most powerful man in the world should have decorum.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Photo op, showing solidarity. That's one thing. Hanging on my wife while I give what is my acceptance speech is another.
I guess manners is just plain out the window all the way to the white house now.

Manners except for show have been out the window at the White House and elsewhere for some time now. But as I responded to TB, I think this is just Joe being Joe. Unassuming, honest, unaware of the camera, completely spontaneous, and typical for him. Because his motives in such matters are so innocent, I think it just never occurs to him how it might look to somebody else.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

"Joe just being Joe" isn't a reason not to point out that this was not a social setting or a cocktail party, and the 2nd most powerful man in the world should have decorum.

If he hasn't figured that out in 72 years, I doubt he's going to change now.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

Maybe you were not taught well. You NEVER lay hands on another mans wife/significant other.

I'll tell you what dude.

If I ever make friends with your wife I'm going to treat her the same way I treat all of my other female friends.

Understand that I am not rude or lascivious in any way to my friends, but as I alluded to above I certainly accept a great deal more personal contact among friends, even friends of the opposite sex, and even married friends of the opposite sex, than you do.

And if you feel froggy you go right ahead and leap.

I like fistfights almost as much as I like women, so no hair off of my ass.

If you're friends with my wife and you hug her goodbye at the end of a BBQ, or if you kiss her on the cheek when the two of you meet, or if you dance with her at a formal event, or if you whisper in her ear when I'm being appointed to an office of the federal executive branch, I'm just fine with that.

Those are just things that emotionality stable men who are secure with themselves and in their sexual relationships don't get rattled about.

If those things scare you, and you feel like to need to lash out in order to establish dominance over your wife and the men around her, then get to it.

Some of us don't really fear you.
 
Re: Is Biden too touchy feely?

If he hasn't figured that out in 72 years, I doubt he's going to change now.

Why are you saying that Ash Carter had his arm around Jill Biden? And where is a picture of this event? The Bidens and Carters aren't social friends, unless there is some evidence to the contrary that you've seen.
 
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