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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Like I said, men freely believe that which they desire. You have provided not one source that states there is no evidence that Israel has tested a nuclear weapon.
    Why? It is not my position that they have nukes?

    Plus you provided enough evidence that they do not have them, such as the ambiguous one in post 306 for instance.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    At one time chocolate and pasta were not allowed in



    BBC News - Guide: Gaza under blockade

    WOW!!! Chocolate and pasta!! Amazing!!!!
    Yes, at one time, which is why it is stupid to deduce that they are still banned.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Why? It is not my position that they have nukes?
    It is your position that because Israel has not tested nuclear weapons that they do not have them

    I still hold the position that unless Israel tests their nukes then they do not have them.
    Again, do you have any evidence whatsoever that they have not tested them? Do you have any knowledgeable credible source that says that they have not tested them? On what do you base your claim, mere belief?

    Therefore I say, men freely believe that which they desire.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Yes, at one time, which is why it is stupid to deduce that they are still banned.
    It goes to show you how stupid the blockade has been.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    It's interesting to see how much Jew-hating these days comes from leftists who also hate America. The U.S. now even has a president who has shown signs of these poisonous sentiments. B. Hussein Obama has been more hostile to Israel than any U.S. president since that nation was created in 1948, even more so than the anti-Semitic Jimmy Carter. It should be no surprise that one of Mr. Obama's closest pals in Chicago was Rashid Khalidi, a great admirer of Yasser Arafat and a former PLO propagandist. Nor should it be any surprise that Obama's preacher of twenty years, Jeremiah Wright, is a close, longtime friend of the Jew-hating Black Muslim Louis Farrakhan.

    Their loathing of Jews and of America gives leftists common cause with Muslim jihadists. That's why leftists can so often be seen carrying water for Hamas, for example--even though it is the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood--while condemning Israel. These people are the jihadists' helpmates in the U.S., constantly making excuses for Islamic terrorists while working to undermine this country's resolve to fight and defeat them. If these people had their way, the U.S. would do nothing to combat Islamic jihad, while stabbing Israel in the back at every opportunity. Andy McCarthy describes this unholy affiliation between leftists and jihadists in an outstanding book entitled "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America."
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It is your position that because Israel has not tested nuclear weapons that they do not have them

    Again, do you have any evidence whatsoever that they have not tested them? Do you have any knowledgeable credible source that says that they have not tested them? On what do you base your claim, mere belief?
    Asking for references for something that did not happen is a logical fallacy named: Appealing to the unknown. It is trying to prove a negative.

    If it was tested there would be references. Since there are no references that state that Israel tested nukes as a fact, then there is no need to believe that they have nukes.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Therefore I say, men freely believe that which they desire.
    I agree,

    But until Israel tests nukes (and it is not my job to prove whether they have) then there is no need to take your word for it, is there?
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Asking for references for something that did not happen is a logical fallacy named: Appealing to the unknown. It is trying to prove a negative.
    No there is no logical fallacy because I did not ask you to prove it. I merely asked for a credible knowledgeable source that has said that Israel has not tested nukes. YOU said that have not tested them and YOU have not provided the slightest thing on which to base your claim other than that is what you believe. Your position would make some sense if I said prove conclusively that they did not test them. What you have put forward here is bogus.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I agree
    Of course you agree, because belief is all you have.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No there is no logical fallacy because I did not ask you to prove it. I merely asked for a credible knowledgeable source that has said that Israel has not tested nukes. YOU said that have not tested them and YOU have not provided the slightest thing on which to base your claim other than that is what you believe. Your position would make some sense if I said prove conclusively that they did not test them. What you have put forward here is bogus.

    Of course you agree, because belief is all you have.
    I see, so you are trying to leave the burden of proof to a non-believer then. Okay, we can do this very easily:

    Does Israel has nukes?

    Yes/No?
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
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    Waaiiitiiiiinggg..... (see post 318 above).
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Waaiiitiiiiinggg..... (see post 318 above).
    Keep believing.

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