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Thread: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I say:

    No test (a story about an Israeli whistleblower cannot compensate for a nuke test) no trust.
    So do you have any sort of credible source that will say there is no evidence whatsoever that Israel has not tested a weapon?

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So do you have any sort of credible source that will say there is no evidence whatsoever that Israel has not tested a weapon?
    Because there are no such sources then Israel does not has nukes. Should you wish to change the position it is of course up to you to find such sources, not me. I am fine with the belief that Israel does not has nukes cause they never tested them (hint, nuke testing is big, and sources easily found).
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Because there are no such sources then Israel does not has nukes. Should you wish to change the position it is of course up to you to find such sources, not me. I am fine with the belief that Israel does not has nukes cause they never tested them (hint, nuke testing is big, and sources easily found).
    Men freely believe that which they desire.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Hamas makes rockets out of chocolate and pasta?
    An idiotic deduction clearly considering chocolate and pasta are allowed into the Gaza Strip at present.
    Cement however is blockaded and only allowed through manageable channels, as Hamas indeed makes rockets and tunnels using the material.

    Isreal began a blockade the moment Hamas won the US mandated election in the Gaza strip. So much for Isreal and its love of democracy...
    It is frivolous to believe that whether or not a state is a Democracy has anything to do with blockading a territory controlled by terrorists.
    It shows great ignorance.

    Hamas was abiding with the ceasefire until Isreal broke it since they always break the ceasefire in order to goad Hamas into fighting them so they can keep invading Gaza. Isreal wants to keep bombing Hamas every few years to keep them weak.
    These ridiculous baseless assertions are fitting the mentality of terror-supporters which is clearly attracted to conspiracy theories by nature.

    I havent denied that Hamas and Hezbollah are murderers. Isreal is just as bad as they are, in fact, the disproportionate civilians Isreal kills makes them far far worse.
    This is like claiming that the US is worse than al-Qaeda.
    Such statement will obviously be a show of support for al-Qaeda.
    Likewise your statement, analogously, is a show of support for Hamas and Hezbollah.
    And that's without even considering you crying over the death of Islamic terrorists.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Men freely believe that which they desire.
    Especially they should be free not to believe claims that have no evidence.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Here's something on possible Israeli nuclear weapons testing

    According to a detailed account contained in Time magazine, Israel assembled about a dozen bombs and readied them for use during the October 1973 Arab-Israeli war. The bombs could have been delivered by aircraft or missiles. In 1974, Israeli President Ephraim Katzir said that "it has always been our intention to develop a nuclear potential ... We now have that potential." This remark was followed five years later by a spectacular and still controversial event.

    On September 22, 1979, an American "Vela" satellite detected a distinctive double flash off the southern coast of Africa. The satellite data, together with other information from U.S. intelligence sources, offered strong evidence that the flash had been caused by a low-yield nuclear explosion. Defense Department and State Department officials pointed out that this was only the 42nd time that a satellite of this type had registered such a signal; and in the first 41 cases, according to these officials, the Vela had correctly detected atmospheric nuclear tests. A State Department official later told the Washington Post: "Look, the Vela satellite picked up a signature like this 41 times before. In every one of those 41 instances, there was never any question about the fact that a nuclear test had taken place. Each of those 41 was undeniably a nuclear explosion. This was, too."

    A 1979 CIA memorandum stated that "of all the countries which might have been responsible for the 22 September event, Israel would probably have been the only one for which a clandestine approach would have been virtually its only option." The CIA also observed that Israelis had participated in South African nuclear research during the preceding several years.

    In June 1980, the CIA reported to the National Security Council that a 2-3 kiloton nuclear test had taken place at the time and place of the Vela reading, and that it had probably involved Israel and South Africa. However, a panel of scientific experts assembled by the Carter White House analyzed the technical data and concluded that the information was too ambiguous to prove that the event was a nuclear test.
    Israel's Nuclear Weapon Capability: An Overview

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Especially they should be free not to believe claims that have no evidence.
    OK. Hurray for you.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's something on possible Israeli nuclear weapons testing

    Israel's Nuclear Weapon Capability: An Overview
    Too ambiguous indeed.

    No test, no trust that Israel has nukes
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    An idiotic deduction clearly considering chocolate and pasta are allowed into the Gaza Strip at present.
    At one time chocolate and pasta were not allowed in

    The UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees Unrwa's list of household items that have been refused entry at various times includes light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, pasta, tea, coffee, chocolate, nuts, shampoo and conditioner.
    BBC News - Guide: Gaza under blockade

    WOW!!! Chocolate and pasta!! Amazing!!!!

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Too ambiguous indeed.

    No test, no trust that Israel has nukes
    Like I said, men freely believe that which they desire. You have provided not one source that states there is no evidence that Israel has tested a nuclear weapon.

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