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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I saw a story that talked about how the U.S. government recently released classified documents on Israel's nuclear program. Since its obvious that Israel has a nuclear weapons program, should they be required to sign the NPT?
    I still hold the position that unless Israel tests their nukes then they do not have them.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I still hold the position that unless Israel tests their nukes then they do not have them.
    How do you know they have not tested them? Not only that but would you be willing to have one dropped on you even if they had not?

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    How do you know they have not tested them?
    References?

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    Not only that but would you be willing to have one dropped on you even if they had not?
    No test no trust, sorry.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    References?
    I don't have any. I am not saying the have tested them, neither I am saying they have not. You said you don't believe they have them until they test them. That means you are saying they have not. Do you have references that state that they have not?

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    No test no trust, sorry.
    So where's the proof that they have not tested them?

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't have any. I am not saying the have tested them, neither I am saying they have not. You said you don't believe they have them until they test them. That means you are saying they have not. Do you have references that state that they have not?
    Interesting, an appeal to the unknown logical fallacy. I did not expect that in non-religious discussions.

    Anyway, one cannot prove a negative. If something exists there should be evidence for it. Since there are none for Israel having nukes then they do not have them.

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    So where's the proof that they have not tested them?
    It would have appeared in references.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Interesting, an appeal to the unknown logical fallacy. I did not expect that in non-religious discussions.

    Anyway, one cannot prove a negative. If something exists there should be evidence for it. Since there are none for Israel having nukes then they do not have them.
    There is all kinds of evidence for it. Are you familiar with the case of Mordechai Vanunu?

    Mordechai Vanunu | World news | The Guardian

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So the hell what if he knew or didn't know. It was clearly an attempt to sabotage the President. Boehner is crap.
    Bs. That is the spin they put on it and you bought it hook line and sinker.
    Informing the President just shows it was not an an attempt at sabotage. That is a ridiculous claim.
    The fact is that Obama ignored it just as he ignored the previous time he was notified again just shows this hoopla is all manufactured bs!
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is all kinds of evidence for it. Are you familiar with the case of Mordechai Vanunu?

    Mordechai Vanunu | World news | The Guardian
    I say:

    No test (a story about an Israeli whistleblower cannot compensate for a nuke test) no trust.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    First of all no, that may have been so between 2007 and 2009 but since 2009 the only items that are banned are those that Hamas makes use for in building tunnels and rockets.
    Really? Hamas makes rockets out of chocolate and pasta?

    Secondly if they wouldn't engage in terrorism there will be no need for a blockade so clearly you are in the wrong.
    Isreal began a blockade the moment Hamas won the US mandated election in the Gaza strip. So much for Isreal and its love of democracy...

    Your friends from Hamas are not "fighting back", they are terrorists who are murdering innocent Jews. Israel has every right to defend itself from those who share your agenda and always will have that right.
    Hamas was abiding with the ceasefire until Isreal broke it since they always break the ceasefire in order to goad Hamas into fighting them so they can keep invading Gaza. Isreal wants to keep bombing Hamas every few years to keep them weak.

    It's not "criticism of Israel" to cry over the deaths of Islamic terrorists that target Jews for murder for being born Jewish. Neither is it "criticism of Israel" to deny that Hamas and Hezbollah are coldblooded murderers.
    I havent denied that Hamas and Hezbollah are murderers. Isreal is just as bad as they are, in fact, the disproportionate civilians Isreal kills makes them far far worse.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

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