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Thread: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    That said, his notions about quantum-locality were indeed mistaken.
    What exactly was he mistaken about?

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Depends on how you want to look at it, the situation could be described as a concentration camp.

    But that aside. I had not formed an opinion on it when I started the thread, but it might be wise to make Israel a party to the NPT as a nuclear weapons state. IF they are willing to exhibit a reasonable degree of transparency on their program, and IF they can show that they had the weapons before the NPT and exactly how they were able to develop them in secret.
    I agree. But as others have pointed out, getting Israel to become a party to NPT will be a heavy lift. But they do get a **** load of aid from us. Btw, did Obama stop aid to Israel. USFP, is pretty consistent and transcends administrations, that should be telling.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Atiya View Post
    You are correct in that Israel is a huge part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; it does not help that the US uses a double standard which favors Israel. Every time the UN seek to impose a resolution on Israel, the US vetoes it. The reason for this is manifold. The Fundamental Christians in America believe only when all the Jews return to Palestine aka Israel, will the Messiah return again. Another reason is political money. AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, contributes handsomely to both parties, Republican and Democrat so that practically the entire congress is pro-Israel. This combination makes dispensing equal justices regarding the Israel/Palestinian conflict upside down. There will never be peace as long as Israel controls the US congress via a hefty election/re-election campaign contributions to the power hunger American congress.

    This Israeli/Palestinian conflict ripples poisonously throughout the middle east and is like a cancer. The Arabs hate the US along with Israel. Europe is also against Israel because of its continued occupation of the West Bank and is planning on future sanctions.
    Good post!
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that's the height of hypocrisy
    if israel is seeking to reign in nuclear proliferation it should sign the NPT
    and comply with its terms
    until then, its views should carry NO weight on the matter

    and if it truly wants to deny iran nuclear arms, it should abandon its own nuclear arms
    then, iran would have no more justification to attain nuclear parity
    israel is an international hypocrite on this issue
    Although I agree with you, they are not going to give up their nuclear weapons. I think what needs to happen is that they become a party to the NPT as a nuclear weapons state provided that they prove that they had the weapons before the NPT and that they show exactly how they were able to develop them.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    OK you win. Satisfied?

    No.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I agree. But as others have pointed out, getting Israel to become a party to NPT will be a heavy lift. But they do get a **** load of aid from us. Btw, did Obama stop aid to Israel. USFP, is pretty consistent and transcends administrations, that should be telling.
    Yeah it will be a heavy lift, but that's why I say they probably need to become a party as a nuclear weapons state. They will need to be transparent about their program tho.

    Well practically speaking Obama, although quite intelligent, was just a half black guy from Chicago with no money. He has to deal with a very powerful group of people in the Jews. It is amazing that he has stoop up to them this much. Quite a bit of courage on his part.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No.
    Too bad. Run along.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It is amazing that although Jewish people suffered so at the hands of the Nazis, that they would impose such severe suffering on the Palestinians. Very cruel.
    Thankfully, though a minority, there are survivors of the holocaust that are ashamed of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

    But some Holocaust survivors cite the Holocaust as the very reason they oppose Israeli policy; specifically, its treatment of Palestinians. These people see that oppressing Palestinians is not just unnecessary and wrong, but hypocritical for a nation founded to provide people with a refuge from oppression. For them, the lesson of the Holocaust isn't "never again" for Jews. It's never again for anyone, including Palestinians.

    6 Holocaust Survivors Who Fight Against Israel's Treatment of Palestinians | Alternet
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Too bad. Run along.
    Still failing to show any hypocrisy. Figures.
    You stop making false claims and run along.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Thankfully, though a minority, there are survivors of the holocaust that are ashamed of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.

    But some Holocaust survivors cite the Holocaust as the very reason they oppose Israeli policy; specifically, its treatment of Palestinians. These people see that oppressing Palestinians is not just unnecessary and wrong, but hypocritical for a nation founded to provide people with a refuge from oppression. For them, the lesson of the Holocaust isn't "never again" for Jews. It's never again for anyone, including Palestinians.

    6 Holocaust Survivors Who Fight Against Israel's Treatment of Palestinians | Alternet
    I'm telling you. Some Jewish people are really awesome. Some of them have been very, very nice to me personally. It's so disappointing to see their state use such cruel tactics. Very disappointing.

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