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Thread: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Atiya View Post
    In my opinion, the answer is yes. Israel should be required to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty. If everyone else has to sign such, why shouldn't Israel? During the 2006 Israeli-Hezbollah conflict, Israel used white phosphorus, a chemical element which burns the skin when used as an incendiary weapon against the enemy. Condoleezza Rice, then Secretary of State, admonished Israel against using such a weapon in that war with Hezbollah. Many Lebanese were treated at the hospital for burns caused by white phosphorus. There should be no exceptions to the rule of NPT.
    WP does not constitute a chemical weapon per se, it is used to light the battlefield when it's dark. It's not even unlawful.
    It is also not very effective as a weapon since it's dropping down at a ridiculously low speed, and a regular half-ton bomb will be far more devastating.
    So I don't know what you're talking about, clearly not what its connection to the NPT is.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    Then I trust you will do your part to keep in check any of those in your country who would think of striking nations developing their own.
    It doesn't work that way I'm afraid.
    Leadership in Israel, as well as in other Western nations, ain't going to allow a backwards fanatical regime that is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet and that doesn't miss an opportunity to call for the "death" of other nations have nuclear weapons of its own thank you very much.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I saw a story that talked about how the U.S. government recently released classified documents on Israel's nuclear program. Since its obvious that Israel has a nuclear weapons program, should they be required to sign the NPT?
    What is the content of the treaty and does Israel officially have nukes for this to be a topic?

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    I`d like it if they would.

    The treaty opens windows for nuclear cooperation in the fields of science and technology.

    France, Japan, Germany, USA, India and others have a long lasting history of cooperation on this ground that have produced alot of scientific advances.

    And I am not just talking about nuclear power, but also in the field of medicine.

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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    If you believe in sovereignty the only answer to "requirement" is no.


    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I see ignorance is alive and well on this site, on this subject.
    And that ignorance comes from those who believe a non-threatening Nation should be "required".

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    But AIPAC cannot control Congress forever.

    They do not control Congress.





    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    As long as the USA "sanctions" Iran for allegedNuke research, it presents itself as the maximum hypocrite for not insisting upon Israeli compliance with an International agreement expressly regarding Israel's nuclear weapons program.

    There is no hypocrisy.

    As Apocalypse said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It doesn't work that way I'm afraid.
    Leadership in Israel, as well as in other Western nations, ain't going to allow a backwards fanatical regime that is the no.1 sponsor of terrorism on the planet and that doesn't miss an opportunity to call for the "death" of other nations have nuclear weapons of its own thank you very much.


    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The USA should initiate teh same sanctions against Israel just to demonstrate that the sanctions are "just and fair" and not a naked political ploy discriminately aimed for covert purposes. Israel needs to comply.
    Holy ****. Besides being unwise, that would not demonstrate such.





    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It makes no sense that we should shield Israel's nuclear weapons program when they won't stop settlement expansion when we ask them to do so. That is totally stupid on our part. I guess you can't blame them for taking advantage of us in that way tho. Why do we keep allowing such nonsense?

    The two are not even comparable.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The thing is this, we do all this stuff for them, but when we ask them to do something as simple as stopping the settlement expansion, they spit in our face. It is totally amazing that we allow this type of thing to continue.
    Stop the exaggerations.
    No one spit in our face.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Your statement runs contrary to the alleged secret agreement that the U.S. has with Israel to shield Israel's nuclear program. Look everyone knows that the U.S. does not honest broker when it comes to Israel. It's hypocrisy pure and simple.
    There is no hypocrisy.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Go peddle your phoney baloney somewhere else
    That would be your baloney.
    What you think you provided means, and what it actually means are two different things.





    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Its not so much a case about whether they are the same but whether they should be held to the same standard (espicially if one is to enforce said standards on the other)
    If Israel engaged in the same quality and quantity of threats and behavior that Iran does, you may have a point. As it is, you do not.

    Which in reality, does make it a case of not being the same.





    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but until it is a signatory to that agreement then its voice, its view should never be heard about another nation seeking nuclear capacity
    Bs. They don't just have a right, but it can be said it is a duty to speak out against a known hostile nation obtaining nukes.
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    Yes, they should be required to sign it just like any other nation.
    No nation is required to sign the treaty. The NPT is strictly voluntary.


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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    ISI involvement is a given, but ISI does not mean government. The ISI is pretty much rogue and has been for a very long time. Just look at their support in hiding Bin Laden... next to their military academy pretty much.
    The Abbottabadd Military Academy is an institution of the Pakistani military, not the ISI.


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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If you believe in sovereignty the only answer to "requirement" is no.


    And that ignorance comes from those who believe a non-threatening Nation should be "required".


    They do not control Congress.






    There is no hypocrisy.

    As Apocalypse said.


    Holy ****. Besides being unwise, that would not demonstrate such.






    The two are not even comparable.


    Stop the exaggerations.
    No one spit in our face.


    There is no hypocrisy.


    That would be your baloney.
    What you think you provided means, and what it actually means are two different things.






    If Israel engaged in the same quality and quantity of threats and behavior that Iran does, you may have a point. As it is, you do not.

    Which in reality, does make it a case of not being the same.





    Bs. They don't just have a right, but it can be said it is a duty to speak out against a known hostile nation obtaining nukes.
    that's the height of hypocrisy
    if israel is seeking to reign in nuclear proliferation it should sign the NPT
    and comply with its terms
    until then, its views should carry NO weight on the matter

    and if it truly wants to deny iran nuclear arms, it should abandon its own nuclear arms
    then, iran would have no more justification to attain nuclear parity
    israel is an international hypocrite on this issue
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, I mean you can ridicule the notion by referring to it as nirvana. Or you can embrace it and lobby for it.
    Total nuclear disarmament has not occurred during the past 70 years of the nuclear age. There is no international instrument currently available to remedy this situation. So yes, at this juncture total nuclear disarmament is a Utopian dream. That said, I would totally support such an initiative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not an impossibility, nor are Einstein's calculations on world war, if we don't.
    It is possible, but not likely. Einstein had his share of foibles. The cosmological constant and quantum mechanics come to mind.


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    re: Should Israel be required to sign the NPT? [W:348]

    Yes, but if they do not sign it is no disaster, it is not like they would be willing to share their knowledge with countries that are untrustworthy. Also, they would not do it because that would not be very good for their relationship with the United States.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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