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Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?


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Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

Yes
No
Other

I of course do and always have. I have stated this many times here over the years.
Ayway there have been movements for this and bills etc and now they are trying again.

John Cornyn: My bill treats gun carry permits like driver's licenses

NRA Backs Senate's 2015 Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Katie Pavlich

Please save any opinions on outlawing guns etc I'm just looking for views on this one aspect.

These types of laws violate the constitution IMO and many have ruined peoples lives or come damn close. One story that comes to mine was a PA resident (a mother of two who had been robbed a couple times) that went to NJ for a kids birthday party. She was pulled over for a lane change violation and stated she had a gun in her purse and her carry permit. Being that NJ doesnt have reciprocity laws that recognize PA's carry permit she faced felony charges and 10 years in prison! Thats crap any way you slice it.

This is something that needs fixed now. Its a shame that fighting against gun laws that violate rights isnt as easy as fighting against other unconstitutional laws because many of the gun laws make you a felon.
 
Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

Yes
No
Other

I of course do and always have. I have stated this many times here over the years.
Ayway there have been movements for this and bills etc and now they are trying again.

John Cornyn: My bill treats gun carry permits like driver's licenses

NRA Backs Senate's 2015 Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Katie Pavlich

Please save any opinions on outlawing guns etc I'm just looking for views on this one aspect.

These types of laws violate the constitution IMO and many have ruined peoples lives or come damn close. One story that comes to mine was a PA resident (a mother of two who had been robbed a couple times) that went to NJ for a kids birthday party. She was pulled over for a lane change violation and stated she had a gun in her purse and her carry permit. Being that NJ doesnt have reciprocity laws that recognize PA's carry permit she faced felony charges and 10 years in prison! Thats crap any way you slice it.

This is something that needs fixed now. Its a shame that fighting against gun laws that violate rights isnt as easy as fighting against other unconstitutional laws because many of the gun laws make you a felon.

Licence?
 
Once something becomes "licensed", it becomes a privilege. It also becomes a way to leverage more money from people for other programs.
 
I don't think a permit should be required at all.
 
Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

Yes
No
Other

I of course do and always have. I have stated this many times here over the years.
Ayway there have been movements for this and bills etc and now they are trying again.

John Cornyn: My bill treats gun carry permits like driver's licenses

NRA Backs Senate's 2015 Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Katie Pavlich

Please save any opinions on outlawing guns etc I'm just looking for views on this one aspect.

These types of laws violate the constitution IMO and many have ruined peoples lives or come damn close. One story that comes to mine was a PA resident (a mother of two who had been robbed a couple times) that went to NJ for a kids birthday party. She was pulled over for a lane change violation and stated she had a gun in her purse and her carry permit. Being that NJ doesnt have reciprocity laws that recognize PA's carry permit she faced felony charges and 10 years in prison! Thats crap any way you slice it.

This is something that needs fixed now. Its a shame that fighting against gun laws that violate rights isnt as easy as fighting against other unconstitutional laws because many of the gun laws make you a felon.

Take a vacation. Either research gun laws in the state(s) you're going to traverse, or you risk getting a felony on your record. And, frankly, with the climate surrounding our LEOs (jumpy, being threatened, feeling persecuted), one even risks getting shot for speeding. Until SCOTUS' recent ruling, different cities in Illinois had different laws. Absolutely ridiculous.

Should be reciprocity. If you're legal in one state, you ought to be legal in all.
 
Take a vacation. Either research gun laws in the state(s) you're going to traverse, or you risk getting a felony on your record. And, frankly, with the climate surrounding our LEOs (jumpy, being threatened, feeling persecuted), one even risks getting shot for speeding. Until SCOTUS' recent ruling, different cities in Illinois had different laws. Absolutely ridiculous.

Should be reciprocity. If you're legal in one state, you ought to be legal in all.

for gun rights I agree!
 
Then where does "other" fit in?

well if you read the OP ita other is about the bill, other would refere to something else with licenses/permits existing not erasing them even though Id be fine with that.
Maybe I should have boleded that part or made it more clear.

Is there a bill out there right now that wants to remove permits.license nation wide?
Id support that if there was
 
well if you read the OP ita other is about the bill, other would refere to something else with licenses/permits existing not erasing them even though Id be fine with that.
Maybe I should have boleded that part or made it more clear.

Is there a bill out there right now that wants to remove permits.license nation wide?
Id support that if there was

That would probably need to be done on a state by state basis.

My contention is that if the FedGov has to issue a license to carry concealed then the right to keep and bear arms has already been infringed. If I was going to vote for any kind of fed permit it would have to allow universal carry. I'm talking planes, schools, the White House, you name it.
 
1.)That would probably need to be done on a state by state basis.
2.)My contention is that if the FedGov has to issue a license to carry concealed then the right to keep and bear arms has already been infringed.
3.) If I was going to vote for any kind of fed permit it would have to allow universal carry. I'm talking planes, schools, the White House, you name it.

1.) why? what does a state do that makes a drivers license national
2.)it wouldn't be the national government it would simply be reciprocity laws that make sure other states recognize each others permits
3.) this bill isnt about a fed permit

maybe read the bill or even the two articles, that will help your confusion. This is backed by the NRA and is about making your current permit/license like a drivers license, recognized everywhere.
 
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Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

Yes
No
Other

I of course do and always have. I have stated this many times here over the years.
Ayway there have been movements for this and bills etc and now they are trying again.

John Cornyn: My bill treats gun carry permits like driver's licenses

NRA Backs Senate's 2015 Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Katie Pavlich

Please save any opinions on outlawing guns etc I'm just looking for views on this one aspect.

These types of laws violate the constitution IMO and many have ruined peoples lives or come damn close. One story that comes to mine was a PA resident (a mother of two who had been robbed a couple times) that went to NJ for a kids birthday party. She was pulled over for a lane change violation and stated she had a gun in her purse and her carry permit. Being that NJ doesnt have reciprocity laws that recognize PA's carry permit she faced felony charges and 10 years in prison! Thats crap any way you slice it.

This is something that needs fixed now. Its a shame that fighting against gun laws that violate rights isnt as easy as fighting against other unconstitutional laws because many of the gun laws make you a felon.

Yes, without hesitation.
 
1.) why? what does a state do that makes a drivers license national
2.)it wouldn't be the national government it would simply be reciprocity laws that make sure other states recognize each others permits
3.) this bill isnt about a fed permit

maybe read the bill or even the two articles, that will help your confusion. This is backed by the NRA and is about making your current permit/license like a drivers license, recognized everywhere.

Well if it's about reciprocity laws then each state would have to approve it. I figure that makes it a state by state issue.
 
How about national constitutional carry instead?
 
Color me "no".

While I dont have a problem with CCW permits, I am a states rights fan on pretty much everything: marijuana, gay marriage (probably soon to be irrelevent via SCOTUS), driver licences and weapons permits. Though a state can voluntarily enter into a variety of reciprocity agreements with other states on a variety of permits, these agreements should by no means be mandatory.
 
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Well if it's about reciprocity laws then each state would have to approve it. I figure that makes it a state by state issue.
no not on this level, If the bill passes it doesnt need each state to approve it
 
Since I'm against permits I don't see why I would support this.
 
Well then it's a FedGov issue.

yes the fed will pass the bill/law but there will be no permit or license issued by the fed like you are concerned and misunderstood :shrug:
this isnt a hard concept lol simply read the bill and article
 
Carry your gun however you want, wherever you want.

while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

but my question really had to do with, does anyone think we need a piece of paper from government to carry?
 
while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

Constitutional carry is in regards to government. You can still prevent me from carrying in your home or your store.
 
while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

but my question really had to do with, does anyone think we need a piece of paper from government to carry?

Could you give us an example of how carrying a gun would violate someone else's rights... Not trying to be belligerent, just looking for some context (after that, I might get a little belligerent :D)
 
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