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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Interesting...does someone's property rights supersede my right to privacy (looking in my purse when I enter a home or business?) We know that some 'events' and venues do, as do some places like courthouses and federal buildings.
    Supercede it? no
    I can't force you to let me look in your purse but I can require it to be on my property and now the choice is yours to agree or not to be on my property

    So your right to privacy would still be 100% in tact
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Supercede it? no
    I can't force you to let me look in your purse but I can require it to be on my property and now the choice is yours to agree or not to be on my property

    So your right to privacy would still be 100% in tact
    So you would ask me, automatically, to leave my purse in my car or not bring it?

    Would you automatically search every male and female that came in as well? (for on-body carry).
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    1.)So you would ask me, automatically, to leave my purse in my car or not bring it?

    Would you automatically search every male and female that came in as well? (for on-body carry).
    I wouldnt ask you to do anything lol but i could. In general it would be fine by me if you carried on my property.
    I also could subjective everybody to a pat down if they wanted in, but again i couldn't force them.
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It it illegal to carry your opinions (First Amendment rights) anywhere?
    i don't not understand what you mean, here by "first amendment", when i was talking about the 2nd.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Interesting...does someone's property rights supersede my right to privacy (looking in my purse when I enter a home or business?) We know that some 'events' and venues do, as do some places like courthouses and federal buildings.
    when you are on the property of another person you have no exercisable rights......none.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    I'm mixed.

    I don't like the idea of a person getting a felony because he had a legal gun with a legal permit and just happened to be in the wrong state. I think it's a waste of time to arrest people like this. They didn't harm any body and they didn't misuse their fire arm.

    On the other hand, I don't like the idea of telling states that they can't govern their own state.


    I lean towards the idea that we have a national concealed carry permit that works everywhere, but I do think it would be smart to require a safety course first before you receive it.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That would probably need to be done on a state by state basis.

    My contention is that if the FedGov has to issue a license to carry concealed then the right to keep and bear arms has already been infringed. If I was going to vote for any kind of fed permit it would have to allow universal carry. I'm talking planes, schools, the White House, you name it.



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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    when you are on the property of another person you have no exercisable rights......none.


    Oh yes you do.

    You have a right to life they cannot infringe upon (unless you threaten theirs).


    You have a right to your own property... just because you are on their property does not mean that anything on your person suddenly belongs to them, or that your car parked in their lot belongs to them, assuming you're their by invitation.


    And again there is a HUGE difference between "PRIVATE property" and "privately owned property that is OPEN TO THE PUBLIC".

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oh yes you do.

    You have a right to life they cannot infringe upon (unless you threaten theirs).


    You have a right to your own property... just because you are on their property does not mean that anything on your person suddenly belongs to them, or that your car parked in their lot belongs to them, assuming you're their by invitation.


    And again there is a HUGE difference between "PRIVATE property" and "privately owned property that is OPEN TO THE PUBLIC".

    life and liberty are not exercisable.....because you cannot die today and live tomorrow.

    i can own a firearm today and keep its for years, then sell it and be without one for years, then buy another so i am exercising the right off and on, it the same with free speech or protesting i can choose to do them or not.

    government is created to secure property of every sort, it has no authoirty to dicate private property for the public or not, unless it causes a violation of someone rights, or threaten the health and saftey of the public.

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