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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    How about national constitutional carry instead?
    that is certainly preferable... but i'll still take national reciprocity over being able to charge people with a crime that is not a crime in any of the 50 states.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    try reading the OP, articles (links) and bill again
    nobody is talking about a national gun license, thanks
    I read the OP. Once the federal government becomes involved in anyway in CW permits, the door is open to the federal government then continuing to set the requirements for one.

    Remember, when started income tax was ONLY to be 2% and ONLY against the top 1% of the population - promising that is all it would ever be.

    The government always starts to take control by minimally getting it's foot in the door. And then continue to grab more and more power with more restrictions. That is the entire history of the federal government on gun control laws and regulations. Why would this be any different?

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats what this bill does
    Noted. Read one...didnt have access to other.

    Sounds fine with me.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That would probably need to be done on a state by state basis.

    My contention is that if the FedGov has to issue a license to carry concealed then the right to keep and bear arms has already been infringed. If I was going to vote for any kind of fed permit it would have to allow universal carry. I'm talking planes, schools, the White House, you name it.
    Interesting...good to bring up: there are states that dont require a permit to cc....what happens with those states/people?
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well if it's about reciprocity laws then each state would have to approve it. I figure that makes it a state by state issue.
    Does each state have to agree to recognized other state's marriages (maybe) or drivers' licenses?
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

    but my question really had to do with, does anyone think we need a piece of paper from government to carry?
    It it illegal to carry your opinions (First Amendment rights) anywhere?
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Carrying a weapon onto private property with out the owner's permission.

    It really does not matter what amendment freedom one wishes to practice (one of the first or the second), one needs the consent of the property owner to do so on private property. With out it, the owner's right to property is being negated. Of course, the same owner can easily give permission for people to excersize the second amendment freedom, or hold a church service, a protest etc. on his property.
    How does that infringe on their rights? Do you have to ask everywhere you go?Is it ok if a person doesnt have a sign up on their home or business? How does it does it infringe if they are not aware of it, anymore than they are aware of your political or religious views, for ex., if they dont know you have it? Are gay people infringing on every Christian's rights when they enter their home or business? Only if the Christians are aware of it? And what if they dont?
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Interesting...does someone's property rights supersede my right to privacy (looking in my purse when I enter a home or business?) We know that some 'events' and venues do, as do some places like courthouses and federal buildings.
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I read the OP. Once the federal government becomes involved in anyway in CW permits, the door is open to the federal government then continuing to set the requirements for one.

    Remember, when started income tax was ONLY to be 2% and ONLY against the top 1% of the population - promising that is all it would ever be.

    The government always starts to take control by minimally getting it's foot in the door. And then continue to grab more and more power with more restrictions. That is the entire history of the federal government on gun control laws and regulations. Why would this be any different?
    obviously you still didn't read the OP or you don't understand it, pick one.
    The fed is NOT getting involved in the actual process, they want to make is so licenses/permits are recognized by each states like a drivers licenses. Meaning since i have my license to carry in PA (which would still be 100% PA controlled) NJ would have to recognize it and honor it
    Like I said, re-read the OP, articles and bill because you didn't or don't understand it
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