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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i do not understand....what would be a national constitutional carry?
    Carry your gun however you want, wherever you want.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well then it's a FedGov issue.
    yes the fed will pass the bill/law but there will be no permit or license issued by the fed like you are concerned and misunderstood
    this isnt a hard concept lol simply read the bill and article
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Carry your gun however you want, wherever you want.
    while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

    but my question really had to do with, does anyone think we need a piece of paper from government to carry?

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.
    Constitutional carry is in regards to government. You can still prevent me from carrying in your home or your store.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    while i agree you should be able to carry a firearm, it not possible to carry it wherever you wish, because that would violate the rights of others.

    but my question really had to do with, does anyone think we need a piece of paper from government to carry?
    Could you give us an example of how carrying a gun would violate someone else's rights... Not trying to be belligerent, just looking for some context (after that, I might get a little belligerent )
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yes the fed will pass the bill/law but there will be no permit or license issued by the fed like you are concerned and misunderstood
    this isnt a hard concept lol simply read the bill and article
    Ok. I guess I was confused.

    Out of curiosity, what license were you talking about in the OP then?

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Could you give us an example of how carrying a gun would violate someone else's rights... Not trying to be belligerent, just looking for some context (after that, I might get a little belligerent )
    Carrying a weapon onto private property with out the owner's permission.

    It really does not matter what amendment freedom one wishes to practice (one of the first or the second), one needs the consent of the property owner to do so on private property. With out it, the owner's right to property is being negated. Of course, the same owner can easily give permission for people to excersize the second amendment freedom, or hold a church service, a protest etc. on his property.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Could you give us an example of how carrying a gun would violate someone else's rights... Not trying to be belligerent, just looking for some context (after that, I might get a little belligerent )
    just like you have a right to carry a firearm, another person has a right to his property.

    he has the right to deny you the exercising of a right on that property.

    it is impossible to exercise a right over another right.

    it is impossible to exercise a privilege over a right......[but its happening in america as we speak].

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Ok. I guess I was confused.

    Out of curiosity, what license were you talking about in the OP then?
    Uhm the same licenses the bill and articles are talking about lol
    I don't understand the question?

    some states call it a license to carry . . . .some call it a concealed weapons permit and there are probably other variants

    its just like drivers licenses . . . . .my pa drivers license is good in every state
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

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    I of course do and always have. I have stated this many times here over the years.
    Ayway there have been movements for this and bills etc and now they are trying again.

    John Cornyn: My bill treats gun carry permits like driver's licenses

    NRA Backs Senate's 2015 Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act - Katie Pavlich

    Please save any opinions on outlawing guns etc I'm just looking for views on this one aspect.

    These types of laws violate the constitution IMO and many have ruined peoples lives or come damn close. One story that comes to mine was a PA resident (a mother of two who had been robbed a couple times) that went to NJ for a kids birthday party. She was pulled over for a lane change violation and stated she had a gun in her purse and her carry permit. Being that NJ doesnt have reciprocity laws that recognize PA's carry permit she faced felony charges and 10 years in prison! Thats crap any way you slice it.

    This is something that needs fixed now. Its a shame that fighting against gun laws that violate rights isnt as easy as fighting against other unconstitutional laws because many of the gun laws make you a felon.
    If people have the constitutional right to bear arms then they automatically also have other rights that emanate from that basic right, such as the right to keep the guns with you when you travel, the right to also own ammunition, to buy and sell guns and ammo, and so on.

    So yes, if we assume that states have the right to license concealed carry (that such licensing does not interfere too much with the 2nd Amendment) then there should be reciprocity with other states.

    If a state passed a law that said that people can own guns, but they can't take guns with them when they leave their homes, it would be a violation of the 2nd amendment because it's tantamount to rendering the 2nd amendment null and void if such a law stands.

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