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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if i didnt want you to carry on my property i would ask you to leave my property...if you refuse i call the law.

    Government is to secure rights, it cannot prevent some rights violations from happening, but it can others by regulations.
    You didnt answer my question. Do you allow people to carry on your property? (And yes, I realize that you probably do not know if a person is carrying or not)
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You didnt answer my question. Do you allow people to carry on your property? (And yes, I realize that you probably do not know if a person is carrying or not)
    yes i would allow them on my property in general , if i had a bad feeling about an individual i would tell them no.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes i would allow them on my property in general , if i had a bad feeling about an indidual i would tell them no.
    Thank you.

    I would do the same in general, not even related to guns. Just IMO.
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Thank you.

    I would do the same in general, not even related to guns. Just IMO.
    most of the itme in our lifes when we enter the property of another person, 99.9 % of the time they do not care what we do because they want our business.

    it thats small faction when people get out of hand and the law needs to be called.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    The ability to excersize any amendment freedom (carry a weapon, hold a church service, hold a poltical protest etc.) is always at the discretion of the property owner. As no one is obligated to enter the property, there is no restriction on rights, and any threats to safety are taken voluntarily.


    I consider private property that is not normally open to the public, and private property that IS open to the public, two different categories.

    Also, if the property is owned by one's employer, one is OBLIGED to enter the property in order to perform one's job. Because the "balance of power" favors the employer in such situations, it is well established that the gov't protect the employee from abuse by the employer... hence OSHA, etc.

    Which is one reason we have laws in may state saying an employer may not forbid you from keeping your gun in your automobile, even though it may be parked in the employer's owned lot.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I guess where I'm coming from is that if a permit must be issued then I'd prefer that the states choose how/whether to do so than to hand that authority over to the feds as well. I like the option of moving to a state where they believe in liberty if I need to but if this whole thing is dictated by the feds we'll all be screwed.


    Which is why I favor "full faith and credit" RECOGNITION of other state's permits, rather than a Fed Permit.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Which is why I favor "full faith and credit" RECOGNITION of other state's permits, rather than a Fed Permit.
    Fed permit leads to registration.
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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Exactly, unless he or a business owner can guarantee my right to life on their property.


    Simple solution: business owner can ban guns on their property if they want... BUT if anyone suffers from a criminal assault on their property while thus disarmed, the burden of proof will be on the OWNER that he took great care to provide security for those he invited onto his property (albeit under the demand they disarm)... and if that doesn't include metal detectors manned by armed security officers at every entrance, he's probably liable...


    That would take care of that bull****...

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Which is why I favor "full faith and credit" RECOGNITION of other state's permits, rather than a Fed Permit.
    I'd go for that.

    If SCOTUS came down with a decision that said "Under Article IV, Section 1, if a state allows Constitutional Carry for the citizens of that state then all other states have to recognize that right for those citizens" I'd be fine with that.

    Well, come to think of it, I'd hate it because we'd have Californians lining up at the state line to come here and that would suck.

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    Re: Do you think a concealed carry license should be national like a drivers license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'd go for that.

    If SCOTUS came down with a decision that said "Under Article IV, Section 1, if a state allows Constitutional Carry for the citizens of that state then all other states have to recognize that right for those citizens" I'd be fine with that.

    Well, come to think of it, I'd hate it because we'd have Californians lining up at the state line to come here and that would suck.
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