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    If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    The non partisan question is simply, "Who is to blame?"

    My take on it:

    I believe only the most close minded loyal followers will blame the Democrats.
    I think that if the Republican House really does push this all the way that they will lose a lot of Independents and turn off a lot of Conservatives.
    You can not be highly visible adding an unrelated item such an anti-immigration to a sensitive and time critical department like DHS, and expect it to be unnoticed or ignored.
    If DHS does not get funded it will be blatantly obvious that the blame falls 100% on Republican shoulders.
    If Americans die due to a terrorist attack and this happened after DHS has a ripple... there will be hell to pay.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    The non partisan question is simply, "Who is to blame?"

    My take on it:

    I believe only the most close minded loyal followers will blame the Democrats.
    I think that if the Republican House really does push this all the way that they will lose a lot of Independents and turn off a lot of Conservatives.
    You can not be highly visible adding an unrelated item such an anti-immigration to a sensitive and time critical department like DHS, and expect it to be unnoticed or ignored.
    If DHS does not get funded it will be blatantly obvious that the blame falls 100% on Republican shoulders.
    If Americans die due to a terrorist attack and this happened after DHS has a ripple... there will be hell to pay.
    it's clearly both parties.

    the democrats share some blame for not agreeing to override Obama vetoes.

    as far as terrorist attacks, DHS is one of the most incompetent agencies ever instituted, and the vast majority of our anti-terrorism agencies like the FBI, CIA, ATF, DEA, etc aren't even on the DHS budget.
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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Man do libs shriek when dear old govt might not be funded.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    The non partisan question is simply, "Who is to blame?"

    My take on it:

    I believe only the most close minded loyal followers will blame the Democrats.
    I think that if the Republican House really does push this all the way that they will lose a lot of Independents and turn off a lot of Conservatives.
    You can not be highly visible adding an unrelated item such an anti-immigration to a sensitive and time critical department like DHS, and expect it to be unnoticed or ignored.
    If DHS does not get funded it will be blatantly obvious that the blame falls 100% on Republican shoulders.
    If Americans die due to a terrorist attack and this happened after DHS has a ripple... there will be hell to pay.
    Democrats are filibustering the bill. If they allowed a vote, it would pass. Doesn't that make it democrats fault? Or are you just a 'closed minded loyal follower" of democrats?

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    well, i dunno... the standards of who to blame and why seem to change every time the majority in Congress changes.

    wasn't too long age that folks were telling me that the majority should have it's will ,and the minority is simply being obstructionists... now that tune has changed to the exact opposite... all it took was a single election and BAM.. partisans reversed themselves midstride.


    I think i'll go with.. both parties... because, well, it's true.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    This is easily solved. You all want to see the DHS funded? Great.

    I say McConnell grow a backbone and pull a Harry Reid. The Republicans should do what Harry Reid did in October 2013, in which he partially abolished the filibuster so he could pack the D.C. circuit court with three liberals. Then McConnell needs to abolish the filibuster over this incident. It would pass with Republican votes. Then have Obama have to veto or accept a bill which strikes out the funding for the immigration service and his illegal unconstitutional actions while it funds DHS.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    This is easily solved. You all want to see the DHS funded? Great.

    I say McConnell grow a backbone and pull a Harry Reid. The Republicans should do what Harry Reid did in October 2013, in which he partially abolished the filibuster so he could pack the D.C. circuit court with three liberals. Then McConnell needs to abolish the filibuster over this incident. It would pass with Republican votes. Then have Obama have to veto or accept a bill which strikes out the funding for the immigration service and his illegal unconstitutional actions while it funds DHS.
    Another solution. Do what Reid did to pass Obamacare. Make it a budget reconciliation bill, then you only need 51 votes. Not sure why this isn't being done.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Yet again, the rest of the world watches our Congress be unable to get its **** together.

    Including the terrorists. They know this is a thing now.
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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Democrats are filibustering the bill. If they allowed a vote, it would pass. Doesn't that make it democrats fault? Or are you just a 'closed minded loyal follower" of democrats?
    That's it.

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    Re: If DHS is not funded, who is to blame?

    It doesn't matter. The work will be done, the employees will be paid. In the end, someone will give in and everything will go back to normal. After the last government shut down republicans got the blame and in the next election picked up seats in congress. The electorate doesn't care about this. What the electorate cares about is the price of gas and groceries. They care if the family is working. The only people who care about funding DHS live inside the beltway or are in the media.
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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