View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    1985 vs 2015

    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    2015 > 1985

    Unfortunately as time goes on some rights get restricted but other rights get recognized.

    I wish we could advance without restricting any rights but still getting other rights recognized. The good thing is that we're pushing back on gun laws and such more so today.

    I prefer my modern life to the '85 life according to what I've heard. Technology advancements are simply too great, to want to live in a more backwards technological age just seems foreign to me.

    Speaking of wanting to live in backwards ages... Perhaps Paleocon can give some good input for this thread
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    1985 was a great year, in fact, probably my favorite year in my life. I was 23 then, out of college, newly working, not yet engaged, and just loving life. The late 1970s were a dark time for this country, and starting around 1982 or so, this country went from an international joke to the leader it once was. We young Americans were so optimistic about our future, and our country. Our government was better. People were happy. The economy was bouncing back, people could finally buy houses because mortgage rates were dropping. Even when scary things happened, there wasn't this paranoia that exists today about foreigners and Muslims and so on. Music was better, movies were better.

    Sure there are many technological and medical advances now. I'll make the argument that cell phones for sales people are 10000 times better than pulling over to a gas station and waiting in line behind 3 other sales people to use the phone. But guess what? It didn't bother me then because I didn't know better.

    Kids knew how to spell because we didn't have spell check. We all read. We knew how to actually talk because we didn't text all day long. We played outdoors instead of sitting on Xbox.

    Yeah, to me life was much better in 1985. Being an American was better in 1985. I'd go back to 1985 in a New York minute.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
    Way too vague, in some few respects, 1985, but mostly 2015.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    1985 was a great year, in fact, probably my favorite year in my life. I was 23 then, out of college, newly working, not yet engaged, and just loving life. The late 1970s were a dark time for this country, and starting around 1982 or so, this country went from an international joke to the leader it once was. We young Americans were so optimistic about our future, and our country. Our government was better. People were happy. The economy was bouncing back, people could finally buy houses because mortgage rates were dropping. Even when scary things happened, there wasn't this paranoia that exists today about foreigners and Muslims and so on. Music was better, movies were better.

    Sure there are many technological and medical advances now. I'll make the argument that cell phones for sales people are 10000 times better than pulling over to a gas station and waiting in line behind 3 other sales people to use the phone. But guess what? It didn't bother me then because I didn't know better.

    Kids knew how to spell because we didn't have spell check. We all read. We knew how to actually talk because we didn't text all day long. We played outdoors instead of sitting on Xbox.

    Yeah, to me life was much better in 1985. Being an American was better in 1985. I'd go back to 1985 in a New York minute.

    (PS Studio 54 was a blast too).
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Way too vague, in some few respects, 1985, but mostly 2015.
    It's vague on purpose, because people value different things. My reason for asking this question was because I watched a movie from 19985, and I'm struck by how much has changed.

    There are so many angles you could approach this from, and it depends on what matters most to you. Reagan vs Obama. Civil rights in 1985 vs today. The threat of communism vs the threat of terrorism. The economy in 1985 vs today. Pop culture. Social demographics.

    There are a lot of angles this can be discussed, just depends on what you value and find most important.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's vague on purpose, because people value different things. My reason for asking this question was because I watched a movie from 19985, and I'm struck by how much has changed.

    There are so many angles you could approach this from, and it depends on what matters most to you. Reagan vs Obama. Civil rights in 1985 vs today. The threat of communism vs the threat of terrorism. The economy in 1985 vs today. Pop culture. Social demographics.

    There are a lot of angles this can be discussed, just depends on what you value and find most important.
    Communism was always hanging over our heads then as a threat. But more Americans died because of terrorism than died as a result of communism in my lifetime.

    Life was simpler back then. People were less paranoid. We had real fun.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    This was back in the day when postal workers were more likely to commit mass murder than high school kids.

    Times differ. My mother was alive back then. My dad was in fine health. Dozens of people I cared about were still alive.

    It is really an impossible thing to judge. I think I would like 1985 better though I would like to have todays technology.
    Last edited by Dayton3; 02-16-15 at 05:05 PM.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Communism was always hanging over our heads then as a threat. But more Americans died because of terrorism than died as a result of communism in my lifetime.

    Life was simpler back then. People were less paranoid. We had real fun.
    It's interesting because in 1985, the Soviet Union was still around, but in only 5 years it was going to collapse. I wonder if people had a sense of that, if the writing was on the wall, so to speak, or if nobody really expected it was going to happen.

    Certainly, there must have been a sense that communism was in decline.

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