View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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  • 1985 was better overall

    31 14.09%
  • 2015 is better overall

    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't see how that is possible. It just seems to me to be political rhetoric made up by liberals to shift blame.
    To shift it to who?

    During that 30 year time span, we have had 15 years under republican presidents, and 15 years under democrat presidents, and I suspect that congress has pretty much been in control of both parties equally also.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    In 1985 I was two. Do the math to find the answer.
    Back when I was saying "these young people today, they don't know nothin", I guess I was talking about people your age.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    To shift it to who?

    During that 30 year time span, we have had 15 years under republican presidents, and 15 years under democrat presidents, and I suspect that congress has pretty much been in control of both parties equally also.
    Policy wise the claim that we have shifted towards Laissez-faire economics doesn't appear to have any basis in fact.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Policy wise the claim that we have shifted towards Laissez-faire economics doesn't appear to have any basis in fact.
    I agree. However income tax rates, particularly on the are much lower today, than they were for decades prior to the Reagan Administration.

    I really don't think that this thread was supposed to be about partisan politics though. It seems that most of the posters are talking about either culture or technology or a combination of the two.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It just seems to me to be political rhetoric made up by liberals to shift blame.
    I see you edited. It's not made up. Our economy has changed dramatically since the 70s (not made up). We use to make most of our money from producing things. Now most of our economy is made from the financialization of the economy. More people are in debt today due to such a shift. Wages may not have kept up, but being able to fiancé is much easier. That helped to create a house of cards. As our economy has become more risky, so has the shift of individual risk as mentioned like retirements etc...

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    I was 4. But I know 2 great things about 1985...


    I will say this, as a small kid Reagan had an almost father like air about him. I knew he cared.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I was 4. But I know 2 great things about 1985...


    I will say this, as a small kid Reagan had an almost father like air about him. I knew he cared.
    Such juvenile notions are usually grown out of. I'll pray for you.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I was 4. But I know 2 great things about 1985...


    I will say this, as a small kid Reagan had an almost father like air about him. I knew he cared.
    Yes, Reagan is much better than Obama..... score one for 1985.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I see you edited. It's not made up. Our economy has changed dramatically since the 70s (not made up). We use to make most of our money from producing things. Now most of our economy is made from the financialization of the economy. More people are in debt today due to such a shift. Wages may not have kept up, but being able to fiancé is much easier. That helped to create a house of cards. As our economy has become more risky, so has the shift of individual risk as mentioned like retirements etc...
    I don't see what that has to do with neoliberalism or laizzare faire economics. The underlining policies haven't really changed and the ideology behind them is more or less the same. The country is just further along the road then it was in the 1970's. That's pretty much it. Sure, you might get me on one regulation or another that was repealed, but with that said, we are more regulated today than the 1970's, the 1980's, the 1990's, or the 00's. It's silly to blame the economy on deregulation.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Such juvenile notions are usually grown out of. I'll pray for you.
    25 years later, Reagan and Back to the Future dont seem to be getting old to me.

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