View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You dismissed their opinion because "things were stacked in their favor."
    Well things were stacked in the favor of the majority race. That's factual. But me noting that was not a dismissal of anybody's opinion. I'm still not seeing how you came to that concluison.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The OP asked if America was better off in 1985, not the world.
    Limiting OP, you need to look at the world, IMO.

    But still, we are much better off today in America then we were in '85.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I'm about your same age, but I'm speeling chalanged and also handwriting challenged. I remember being in grade school just wishing that there was something that I could just talk or think into, and my thoughts would somehow be transferred to paper.

    Since I can type much faster and more legibly than I can hand-write, I'm thrilled to be able to communicate on a keyboard. It's a huge improvement, but probably more so for me, than for most people. If I had been a college student in 2015 instead of 1985, I would have made much better grades.

    I'm not particularly fond of having this little tracking device in my pocket all the time though. Sometimes, I would prefer to simply be out of touch with others. I got a call from my alarm system company last summer, my alarm had been activated, and I was thinking "what the heck am I supposed to do about it" - I was on vacation, 800 miles away, in a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. Fortunately, it turned out it was my pet sitter who forgot to deactivate the alarm.
    My cousin (50) has dyslexia. He always says that computers are a Godsend to him.

    Last week I was in the kitchen rooting through the pantries and fridge to make a shopping list. I was calling out things to my 15 year old to write down. Kid gets straight 8s in school. You should have seen the list. Not only illegible, but I felt like he had just finished Hooked on Phonics as a 2nd grader.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Kids knew how to spell because we didn't have spell check. We all read. We knew how to actually talk because we didn't text all day long. We played outdoors instead of sitting on Xbox.
    As a teacher I see very little evidence of this being accurate....
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Well things were stacked in the favor of the majority race. That's factual. But me noting that was not a dismissal of anybody's opinion. I'm still not seeing how you came to that concluison.
    That's what it sounded like to me, but if you're saying you aren't dismissing anybody's opinion, then you aren't.

    Anyway, what was stacked in favor of Caucasians in 1985?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Ronald Reagan is dead. That alone is enough to make America far better off in 2015.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Limiting OP, you need to look at the world, IMO.

    But still, we are much better off today in America then we were in '85.
    Start your own thread, then.

    I wanted to limit the discussion to the United States, because the particular point that the United States' relative position in the world has changed since 1985 is interesting to me.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The Challenger was January of 1986. I remember the day it happened - my mother was watching it at her house and saw it happen, and called me at work. It was so sad, but it became a rallying thing for Americans.

    Why do I get the idea that if that happened in January of 2016, it would be a partisan finger pointing fest? "Republicans are determined to do universe building and see what happens!" "Obama wanted to kill a teacher!" "The Koch Brothers own a company that supplies to the suppliers of the suppliers of the manufacturers of the O-Rings!"
    I have two memories like that - I was at home, after school, watching TV when President Kennedy was assassinated. I was 7. The second was being at the office and watching the 9/11 attacks and feeling very uneasy, watching the second plane go into the second tower, watching people jump and not realizing it right away and then being sick thinking about it - it was a scary day.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    As a teacher I see very little evidence of this being accurate....
    Sorry, I don't have access to a time machine to send you back to 1985 to compare.

    We didn't have smart phones and Xbox in 1985. We didn't have spell check either. I had to type my senior college honors thesis on an IBM Selectric 2 typewriter. It wasn't checking my words usage or my spelling.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's what it sounded like to me, but if you're saying you aren't dismissing anybody's opinion, then you aren't.

    Anyway, what was stacked in favor of Caucasians in 1985?
    Well not just Caucasians. We can throw gay rights in as well.

    However, even today, minorities get a lot of flack for being here. For living in impoverished areas and acting like impoverished people do. Black and Hispanics are still overwhelming incarcerated and profiled. However in this day and age cops can't get away with it as easily as they could in 1985.


    Also the black rights movement was only a little over twenty years ago at 1985. So the racial animosity was still pretty fresh.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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