View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    31 14.09%
  • 2015 is better overall

    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Didn't stop Kirk Cameron from becoming a complete religious lunatic, did it?
    I think he always was.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I think he always was.
    At least he could get a job before, now he just kisses Ray Comfort's backside.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Leonardo DiCaprio was the adopted kid on growing pains. I liked the show and the theme song.
    But that is a rare exception. The vast majority of "child stars" disappear once their show ends and are never heard from again.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    At least he could get a job before, now he just kisses Ray Comfort's backside.
    Growing Pains started out funny then got progressively worse, I never watched the Cosby Show and my all time favorite TV show is:


    Ive got all the DVDs and I still watch them every now and then. When my son gets older I will make sure he is a Vice fan too.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Growing Pains started out funny then got progressively worse, I never watched the Cosby Show and my all time favorite TV show is:


    Ive got all the DVDs and I still watch them every now and then. When my son gets older I will make sure he is a Vice fan too.
    Miami Vice is the epitome of the 80's!

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Growing Pains started out funny then got progressively worse, I never watched the Cosby Show and my all time favorite TV show is:


    Ive got all the DVDs and I still watch them every now and then. When my son gets older I will make sure he is a Vice fan too.
    I never really got into Miami Vice. I was a Hill Street Blues Guy.


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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why did you choose 1985? What's so significant about that date? Why not the volatile period of late 50s early 60s. That would be a better comparison in my opinion. Nothing really major happened in that year.
    Same could be said for 2015. I guess it was so that we don't zero in on one or two big events, but look at the era as a whole and compare it to where we are today. In what areas have we progressed, on what areas have we stagnated, and in what areas have we regressed?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Miami Vice is the epitome of the 80's!
    I loved Miami Vice. Don Johnson was....indescribable.

    I was also a big Family Ties fan. Loved that show. My other favorite mid-80s shows were Moonlighting and LA Law.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Don't you think there are environmental factors as to why they end up there? Are kids from the ghettos genetically predisposed to be lazy, to smoke outside a 7/11 and to not want to go to school? Or could there be some outside circumstance of their birth/life that is not their fault, which means they are pushed in that direction?

    If there is an environmental factor at play, don't you think that society can fix that environmental factor? Would it not be a good idea to fix it? Rather than just abandon them?
    I think it's a mixture of nature and nurture, so to speak.

    The environmental factor I blame the most is the lack of strong families. If you have a mother and father who care about your education, then you won't hang around the 7-11.

    The problem is there isn't much that can be done to attack this issue. The answer lies in conservative values and the traditional family, however society seems to be pushing us further from that by the day. No government action can curb societal trends.

    One thing that can be done, though, is to halt the liberal agenda to destroy the tradition family by electing and appointing conservative judges.

    But yes, the environment plays a big role. If you look at African Americans in particular, during slavery, they were not allowed to marry and fathers/sons were usually split up from their families and sold to other plantations. They were also not allowed to learn how to read or get an education. They were bred like animals for their physical strength.

    I think these things had a lasting impact on today's culture. Having massive public assistance and giveaway programs does nothing to help break this cycle, in fact it reinforces it

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    This poll was running 50/50, then some tool non-member came and voted 100 times for 2015. Now the poll is worthless.

    Mods really should do something about that. Why even have a poll? Only members should get to vote.

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