View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    True, but that's progress which again doesn't make 1985 seem so bad.
    1985 wasn't bad at all. It was a great year. My favorite year.

    Maybe the OP watched Back To The Future recently, which dealt in 30 year sprints (1985 to 1955 to 1985 to 2015)?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    As a frothing right winger at that time I can certainly agree that there was concern about the USSR nuclear capabilities. One of the biggest concerns, in fact, was that if their economy collapsed or they experienced massive civil unrest that the nukes would start flying. That's why we wanted the missile defense shield or "star wars" as it was more colloquially known. In fact, in 1985 I was stationed in Colorado Springs which, as I'm sure you know, was home to NORAD. We had no illusions about whether or not we were on a Soviet target list so as far as I was concerned the more space lasers we had the better!
    All agreed. However memory serves that we were not that aware of how serious might be the economic collapse. I was sent to Poland in 87n to cover Solidarity and their rise to power as a political force from a trade union. At the time my stuff was being shopped to US outlets as there was some surprise value in how much Soviet control was slipping, including a translated interview with two Russian soldiers who had not been paid in six months and were living on the grace of Polish families....interviews in which we were NOT asked to hide their identities....that was big news!

    By the way, I have been to Colorado Springs and seen part of the set up....It was rather overwhelming in fact.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No clue what "coawardice" is.

    It's Wednesday where you are. It's Tuesday in the United States. That's cerebral, I know.
    Got me on a typo... ouch. That help your self-esteem a bit?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why did you choose 1985? What's so significant about that date? Why not the volatile period of late 50s early 60s. That would be a better comparison in my opinion. Nothing really major happened in that year.
    Greetings, ModerateGOP.

    Well, Ronald Reagan was President in 1985, and people liked him, and were more generally optimistic about the future back then than they seem to be today. Everyone I knew had a job that wanted one, and we didn't have the racial and cultural divisiveness that we see today. Everyone just seemed to get along with each other. To me, it was an exciting time to be alive - that was the first time we went to the magical place called Disney World in Orlando, Florida!. I'd go back to that time period any day for a long visit with family members who are now gone, and much missed.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Your truth or real truth.

    You "owned" looking like a fool in that exchange son
    Dude, you think it isn't supposed to look foolish because that was the entire point. The ownage is not in the day/date it was in the fact that she refused to be intellectually honest in the first place. The "ownage" is so stupid that it illustrates the true stupidity and that is of her being intellectually dishonest.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Ownage is when someone is so obsessed with your posts on a message board that he can't stop posting about them, and ownage is when you mean so much to another anonymous poster on a message board that the poster thinks he's scored a victory over anonymous message board posts about 2 posters in different countries being on different dates.

    Thanks for the laughs!

    Back to this interesting topic. It's been derailed enough by disagreements over how much money should be invested in poor cities schools and what day it is in New Zealand. Back to 1985! Sorry for my derailing, Grimm. I'll ignore the dopey posts from here on in.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ownage is when someone is so obsessed with your posts on a message board that he can't stop posting about them, and ownage is when you mean so much to another anonymous poster on a message board that the poster thinks he's scored a victory over anonymous message board posts about 2 posters in different countries being on different dates.

    Thanks for the laughs!

    Back to this interesting topic. It's been derailed enough by disagreements over how much money should be invested in poor cities schools and what day it is in New Zealand. Back to 1985! Sorry for my derailing, Grimm. I'll ignore the dopey posts from here on in.
    Don't derail a thread over the day then... all I did was to say what day it was. You argued that I was wrong. You were wrong. OWNED.

    OWNAGE is when a person asserts they are correct when they are not and cowardly ignores that fact in an intellectually dishonest manner.

    You are free to ignore me but what you are unable to do is to turn it around on me... it takes skills that you don't seem to be close to...
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Dude, you think it isn't supposed to look foolish because that was the entire point. The ownage is not in the day/date it was in the fact that she refused to be intellectually honest in the first place. The "ownage" is so stupid that it illustrates the true stupidity and that is of her being intellectually dishonest.

    Dude?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Dude?

    Have a good life..........................
    Does "Dude" offend you, dude?
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