View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    31 14.09%
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    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is Wednesday and I OWNED you. Still do. Ownage is awesome so my Wednesday is great. Owned.
    So would you say that "ownage is the new black?"

    (Sorry, I couldn't resist that one!)
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
    Just out of curiosity, why did you choose 1985? What's so significant about that date? Why not the volatile period of late 50s early 60s. That would be a better comparison in my opinion. Nothing really major happened in that year.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is Wednesday and I OWNED you. Still do. Ownage is awesome so my Wednesday is great. Owned.
    Today is Wednesday in your world?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They were behind in the space race once the first Apollo mission went... and in 85 the USSR was not in decline noticeably but that was the beginning. Afghanistan and Gorbechev starting reforms in 85 lead to the downfall of the USSR.
    I was talking about the perception at the time....

    The naysayers were complaining that the US was losing the space race.


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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    I wasn't alive in 1985, but technology alone is better today than it was in 85. The existence of the Internet and the World Wide Web alone make 2015 better.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    My take was that after Breshnev died the Soviets had Andropov and Chernenko who didn't live long enough to make a difference. Then Gorbachev came along and there was a real sense that Western principles of governance were going to have a significant impact on the Soviet Bloc. Prior to that they were obviously bogged down in Afghanistan and that HAD to make people think that any incursion into NATO territory (except nuclear) would be even less successful.

    Maybe they weren't in decline at the time but they damned sure weren't getting any stronger.
    Again I am referencing what was believed at the time. The US right was frothing that the US was losing the arms race and I and the US had every reason to do so. I tried numerous times to document USSR infiltration of the North American "peace" movement that was largely a front for anti-American propaganda.

    In my recollection no one was saying anything much Soviet decline until much later when we were looking at the fall of the Berlin Wall which caught the CIA completely by surprise.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, it's 5:34 pm ET on Tuesday. "Owned"? This is a message board, Bodhisattva. Message board. Not real life.

    Carry on though. Happy Tuesday!
    Nope. I live in the future and perhaps that is why it was so easy to OWN you. In New Zealand it is Wednesday at 11:59 am. Sorry... Wednesday. Message boards are a part of real life... I will gladly OWN you in that and up my OWNAGE points on you if you like.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Today is Wednesday in your world?
    Yes. Does that frighten you?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    So would you say that "ownage is the new black?"

    (Sorry, I couldn't resist that one!)
    It was even the new black in 1985...
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nope. I live in the future and perhaps that is why it was so easy to OWN you. In New Zealand it is Wednesday at 11:59 am. Sorry... Wednesday. Message boards are a part of real life... I will gladly OWN you in that and up my OWNAGE points on you if you like.

    OWNED.
    Um, okay. Well, happy Wednesday! I hope your day goes well.
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