View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    31 14.09%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    For me the biggest difference is the sense of opportunity I felt in the 80's. Maybe it was just my youth but at that point there was no sense that we couldn't or shouldn't overcome any adversity that was thrown at us. I think the Challenger incident happened right around then and while it was devastating for everyone there was STILL a sense that we'd get past it and make sure that the lives of the astronauts wouldn't have been lost in vain. There was a real sense that we would lead the world to freedom and prosperity. Hell, after years of pushing small, weenie cars on the public Chevrolet put out a Monte Carlo that actually made us believe that muscle cars were going to make a comeback.
    I'd forgotten about the Challenger accident - that's a good point. Seems like that was when America stopped thinking big, national things and the end of the space program as we'd known it up to then began. You only get that kind of national enthusiasm around Olympics time now.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    I think the Nation has gone downhill since Bush 1 was allowed to pardon most of his sitting cabinet members.
    That was a tough pill because I knew all about Iran/Contra and much more. Then came the Patriot Act to screw
    up anything that wasn't already screwed up and put the gov't up your bunghole. Now the biggest and crookedest
    Banks run the Nation and Corporations are allowed to buy politicians legally. Since Vietnam, I have hated the
    "war is good business" mentality that runs this Nation, 1985 and now, and that has gotten exponentially worse.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    2015 and on are the better years. Times are getting better.

    I honestly believe the only Americans who will claim anytime prior as being the Best time to live are most likely Caucasian. And well why wouldn't it be - when the further you go back the more things are stacked in their favor.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    All in one's perspective.

    I loved the 80's. Sometimes I miss it. I was in my 20's living life. I had a great time.

    2015? My daughter has been out of the house for a year and loves her life, even if she is has much less than living at home. I think she'll look back and find this time in her life just as awesome as I did my 20's. My sons will look back on the late part of the last decade as their fun in the sun.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'd forgotten about the Challenger accident - that's a good point. Seems like that was when America stopped thinking big, national things and the end of the space program as we'd known it up to then began. You only get that kind of national enthusiasm around Olympics time now.
    The Challenger was January of 1986. I remember the day it happened - my mother was watching it at her house and saw it happen, and called me at work. It was so sad, but it became a rallying thing for Americans.

    Why do I get the idea that if that happened in January of 2016, it would be a partisan finger pointing fest? "Republicans are determined to do universe building and see what happens!" "Obama wanted to kill a teacher!" "The Koch Brothers own a company that supplies to the suppliers of the suppliers of the manufacturers of the O-Rings!"
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Not worldwide. Which is what really matters.

    Also, music in the 80's better?
    The question was whether the USA, not the world, was better off in 1985 or today.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    2015 and on are the better years. Times are getting better.

    I honestly believe the only Americans who will claim anytime prior as being the Best time to live are most likely Caucasian. And well why wouldn't it be - when the further you go back the more things are stacked in their favor.
    Well, Caucasians are entitled to opinions just as you are.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Well, Caucasians are entitled to opinions just as you are.
    At no point ever, in this thread or this forum, did ever say they weren't.

    I'm entitled to add perspective to your thread. It is public and it is my opinion.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    At no point ever, in this thread or this forum, did ever say they weren't.

    I'm entitled to add perspective to your thread. It is public and it is my opinion.
    You dismissed their opinion because "things were stacked in their favor."

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    ...

    Kids knew how to spell because we didn't have spell check....
    I'm about your same age, but I'm speeling chalanged and also handwriting challenged. I remember being in grade school just wishing that there was something that I could just talk or think into, and my thoughts would somehow be transferred to paper.

    Since I can type much faster and more legibly than I can hand-write, I'm thrilled to be able to communicate on a keyboard. It's a huge improvement, but probably more so for me, than for most people. If I had been a college student in 2015 instead of 1985, I would have made much better grades.

    I'm not particularly fond of having this little tracking device in my pocket all the time though. Sometimes, I would prefer to simply be out of touch with others. I got a call from my alarm system company last summer, my alarm had been activated, and I was thinking "what the heck am I supposed to do about it" - I was on vacation, 800 miles away, in a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. Fortunately, it turned out it was my pet sitter who forgot to deactivate the alarm.
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