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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    From what I know of tres the poster was probably Leif Garrett or Shaun Cassidy.
    Them, and Parker Stevenson. When he & Shaun Cassidy were The Hardy Boys, I like every teenage girl was glued to the television for their show.

    Willie Aames was also a very hot ticket. The boys in my school all had Farrah and her red bathing suit on their walls.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I was in grade school at that time and a huge fan, I kept pestering my parents to buy me sunglasses like McMahon's. And when I finally played varsity football in high school I wore a headband and everyone on the team called me Mac even though I wasnt a QB. lol
    Yeah but did you write "Rozelle" across it?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
    They had some badass movies in the 80s that are still great today.

    The music was largely better in the 80s, especially in the alternative and punk scenes

    The computers at the time were far more interesting (today they are so easy)

    Civil unrest and crime were worse back then

    Medicine was worse as well as health outcomes

    My talents are more appreciated today than they would be back then and my earning potential is currently greater.

    In the 80s, I would disappear for the entire day in the woods, today I am nervous about my kids being out of my sight

    Education is better these days, especially in the category of dealing with special education

    Society is much more precise and accurate about these days, we rely on data and standardization much more than personality and that is a good thing

    I am too young to really compare the political stuff or culture stuff, except from a personal perspective, I was 6 in 1985.

    all in all, I prefer today.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We aren't talking about wars. And Korea wasn't during my lifetime. If you want to start a thread complaining about Johnson sending American boys to Vietnam, please do so.

    In 1985 planes weren't being flown into buildings. In 1985 people weren't shooting up schools. You feel safer now. I was safer in 1985.
    I think you have some rose colored nostalgia going. As to school shootings in 1985:

    1985 vs 2015-mass-school-shootings-jpg

    The murder rate in 1985 was almost twice as high then as it is today:



    If you look at the differences in the number of people murdered every year in the 80s and compared that to the last decade, the additional number of people killed every year in the 80s exceeds 9/11 by quite a margin.

    There were also more deaths worldwide due to violent conflicts in 1985 than today:



    You may have felt safer in 1985 but by any statistical measure you are safer today.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I think you have some rose colored nostalgia going. As to school shootings in 1985:

    1985 vs 2015-mass-school-shootings-jpg

    The murder rate in 1985 was almost twice as high then as it is today:



    If you look at the differences in the number of people murdered every year in the 80s and compared that to the last decade, the additional number of people killed every year in the 80s exceeds 9/11 by quite a margin.

    There were also more deaths worldwide due to violent conflicts in 1985 than today:



    You may have felt safer in 1985 but by any statistical measure you are safer today.
    Excellent. I'm glad you're much safer today. I was much safer in 1985. I knew people who were killed at work on September 11, 2011. I never knew anyone killed at work before that.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    I think the US was better off in 1985, me personally am much better off in 2015,
    1985 was an ugly year for me.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yeah but did you write "Rozelle" across it?
    I was gonna write something for one of my teachers since the faculty always watches Friday night games but I was too sceered.


    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Them, and Parker Stevenson. When he & Shaun Cassidy were The Hardy Boys, I like every teenage girl was glued to the television for their show.

    Willie Aames was also a very hot ticket. The boys in my school all had Farrah and her red bathing suit on their walls.
    I think you went too far on the wayback machine for those people- they seem to be from the 70's more like.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I was gonna write something for one of my teachers since the faculty always watches Friday night games but I was too sceered.



    I think you went too far on the wayback machine for those people- they seem to be from the 70's more like.
    Yes they're all from the 1970s. Some posters think women in the mid-20s had New Kids on the Block posters on our walls. Luther was smart enough to know if I was 23 in 1985, chances are I had posters of other people on my walls at a time when people have posters on their walls (when we're teens) .
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Excellent. I'm glad you're much safer today. I was much safer in 1985. I knew people who were killed at work on September 11, 2011. I never knew anyone killed at work before that.
    And you are certainly smart enough to know the difference between anecdotal accounts and statistical evidence. For example, on might know someone in Norway that was murdered. However, that would not change the fact that Norway is one of the safest countries on earth. Similarly, one might say they have never felt in danger living in Mexico, but that would not change the fact that it is one of the most dangerous countries on earth. Statistically you are safer in America today by a long shot than in 1985. You might not feel safer, but the odds of you being a victim of a violent crime or God forbid a murder victim is far lower today than then.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    And you are certainly smart enough to know the difference between anecdotal accounts and statistical evidence. For example, on might know someone in Norway that was murdered. However, that would not change the fact that Norway is one of the safest countries on earth. Similarly, one might say they have never felt in danger living in Mexico, but that would not change the fact that it is one of the most dangerous countries on earth. Statistically you are safer in America today by a long shot than in 1985. You might not feel safer, but the odds of you being a victim of a violent crime or God forbid a murder victim is far lower today than then.
    That's great. You feel safer now. I felt safer in 1985. I never worried about terrorism then. My mother didn't worry about her kids getting shot in school then.
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