View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    31 14.09%
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    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    More money does NOT equate to higher scores. Do you disagree?
    Higher socio-economic status does because more money gives these children more resources before they enter public schools. That is where the field is uneven. Day one of kindergarten, it stands out like a sore thumb.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Higher socio-economic status does because more money gives these children more resources before they enter public schools. That is where the field is uneven. Day one of kindergarten, it stands out like a sore thumb.
    Nevermind the higher econ status-you can't control that. How about funding-since it does not correlate to better scores, but does correlate to more money to teachers and teachers unions-now what?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    New kids on the what? Sorry but I do not know that band.

    Guns and Roses, Van Halen, Duran Duran, 1980's U2, 80's Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Queen, REM, Talking Heads, Dire Straits, Kiss, the Police, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Prince, Billy Joel, Metallica, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Genesis, Red Hot Chili peppers, Chicago.

    And that is just the mainstream bands, I also have Slayer, Death Angel, Ronnie James Dio, the Cult, and many more.
    Sounds like revisionist history by over compensating your band list


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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Nevermind the higher econ status-you can't control that. How about funding-since it does not correlate to better scores, but does correlate to more money to teachers and teachers unions-now what?
    You can control one thing. That is providing better resources to those that can't get them prior to kindergarten and that is having a high quality learning opportunity at a much younger age, Also, stop it with the union boogeyman. It gets old.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Oh 1985 by far.

    We're in the Carter years mutliplied by 10 right now.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Sorry, but to me it not good music, better than maybe a lot of music today but not as good as some of the actually great music of the 80's.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You can control one thing. That is providing better resources to those that can't get them prior to kindergarten and that is having a high quality learning opportunity at a much younger age, Also, stop it with the union boogeyman. It gets old.
    What you are proposing to control does not improve outcomes. Im about evidence, not what sounds good.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh 1985 by far.

    We're in the Carter years mutliplied by 10 right now.
    I keep hearing that! I was a baby at the time, but this is certainly the worst I remember.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What you are proposing to control does not improve outcomes. Im about evidence, not what sounds good.
    Really? You are really suggesting a high quality pre-school experience won't improve outcome? I guess this is where we agree to disagree.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    It's kind of a mixed bag, IMO.

    The technology of 2015 is nice. I'll give it that much. Our future is rather uncertain, however, and popular culture is a lot worse. Opportunities for growth and advancement (both personal and societal) also seem to be a lot more limited in comparison to what they once were.

    The America of 1985 was on it's up to a "Golden Age." The America of 2015 is on its way down from that high, and its not entirely clear how far we'll slip before things rebound again.

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