View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's interesting because in 1985, the Soviet Union was still around, but in only 5 years it was going to collapse. I wonder if people had a sense of that, if the writing was on the wall, so to speak, or if nobody really expected it was going to happen.

    Certainly, there must have been a sense that communism was in decline.
    There was a definite sense that Communism was in decline. Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement was in high gear and Gorbachev was using terms like "Perestrioka" and "glasnost". There was a lot of hope that Reagan would manage to thaw out the "cold war".

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Duran Duran sucks. Tears For Fears was the bomb. So were The Cars, Billy Squier, 38 Special, OMFG I could go on and on.
    You probably went to Loverboy and REO Speedwagon concerts too. Just....yuck!!

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Fun thread topic, Grimm. I like it, made me have to think and this was a fun thing to think about.

    The Achille Lauro hijacking happened in 1985. I do remember that well. I think it was the first time I heard of innocent Americans being attacked by "terrorists" which is how they described the Palestinians. There was a TWA flight hijacked the same year, by Lebanese as I recall.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    You probably went to Loverboy and REO Speedwagon concerts too. Just....yuck!!
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    I wasn't born in 1985 so definitely going to be biased on this one.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    If I had to choose I would say 2015. My pick is based on emotion. In 1985 I was goofing off with friends and having a great time, but I had just started dating my future wife and my daughter obviously wasn't born yet. Based off of those two things I pick 2015 because I wouldn't give up those two things for anything.

    Additionally, the mistakes I made along the way made me who I am today. That said I have to say I turned out better than I thought and better than others thought I would.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
    For me the biggest difference is the sense of opportunity I felt in the 80's. Maybe it was just my youth but at that point there was no sense that we couldn't or shouldn't overcome any adversity that was thrown at us. I think the Challenger incident happened right around then and while it was devastating for everyone there was STILL a sense that we'd get past it and make sure that the lives of the astronauts wouldn't have been lost in vain. There was a real sense that we would lead the world to freedom and prosperity. Hell, after years of pushing small, weenie cars on the public Chevrolet put out a Monte Carlo that actually made us believe that muscle cars were going to make a comeback.
    Last edited by Lutherf; 02-16-15 at 05:30 PM.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Pretty simple question for discussion: Is the United States better off today, or were we better off 30 years ago in 1985?

    There are a number of angles you can approach this from, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what's important to you.

    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?

    Which era was a better time to be an American?
    Personally, as an old man, I'd say things are always better if you're progressing and improving. I'd say there's much in 2015 that is incredibly beneficial to life as we know it, even if a lot of "new" things drive me crazy. Medicine is vastly improved, but communications technology irritates me greatly. The internet is why we're here, but a lot of it is sick and depraved. Cars are better made, but the technology is a repair pain. You take the good with the bad.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not in the United States is poverty down. In 1985 it was 14%. In 2013 it was 14.5%.
    Not worldwide. Which is what really matters.

    Also, music in the 80's better?
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Not worldwide. Which is what really matters.

    Also, music in the 80's better?
    The OP asked if America was better off in 1985, not the world.
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