View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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  • 1985 was better overall

    31 14.09%
  • 2015 is better overall

    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    1985/86 I was at the top of my career, Expo 86 was in the works here and I was lead gun at my station, covering first an unexpected leadership campaign and then a six week election, I was on the road most of a year.

    I miss being able to simply board an airplane or enter the US with a driver's license, I do not miss the play of the Canucks in that era. I do like the convenience of cell phones, but not the intrusion they have become. I would not give up the internet for anything in that era. I did like the fashions of that day over what I see here now, and back then women had grace and charm; they have become hard and often cynical, at least here.

    I do not find the threat of terror to be much different than the threat of global nuclear warfare with a president making jokes about "we will bomb them at noon".

    I would like to make today's money in that era.....and know now what I didn't know then about women. Had that been the case then I would not have been at top of my career.
    Women have become hard and cynical here too. After getting looks of disdain from younger women for holding doors open for them, I stopped doing it-now I only do it for older woman, who appear to appreciate it.

    Hipster jeans have got to go.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The parents apparently disagree. Why do you think that is?

    And do you teach your students about the benefits of competition?
    What? You're kidding right? I'm not talking anecdotal evidence.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Well I benefited-my mother was a teacher, and she had ways to get me into the better teachers classes.

    What you describe is a concept I described to my mom years ago, but I used the term "educational triage".

    Her, and several other teachers (many mine, as my mom is friends with them to this day) I ran the idea by essentially said some mix of its being not fair, bad for self esteem, or it didn't provide roll models for the less capable students. I asked how it was the better performing students job to do that-and never got a cogent answer.

    Educating children isnt an insurmountable task, we've done it better before. Thomas Sowell says he received an excellent education in Harlem in the 40's and 50's. Yes, the home environment is a critical factor-but one schools can't control.

    We need to change course, where we are headed isn't working.
    Both my parents were teachers.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What? You're kidding right? I'm not talking anecdotal evidence.
    Once again, why do you think that is? Could it be that perhaps (maybe elsewhere?) some school options are doing better than others?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Both my parents were teachers.
    Than I bet they have a ton of teachers still as friends. Try Christmas Bunco with your kindergarten through highschool teachers.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    For the moment assume I agree (I do), can you explain how to do that when unions oppose any substantive reforms? Here in CA all they do is ask for more money, in LA they spend 16K per student per year. At that price you could higher a private teacher to come teach your child at home one on one.

    Utah spends near the bottom per student per year, and they always do well nationally.

    Its not always a money problem, and its not always poor poor overworked teachers-but thats not what the unions say.
    I get that. I also don't support any public sector unions, and only marginally support private sector unions.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Once again, why do you think that is? Could it be that perhaps (maybe elsewhere?) some school options are doing better than others?
    I thought we were talking MA?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I remember spending hours drinking the night before the calculus test.

    That was the semester I decided I needed to change my major.
    Yeah calculus will do that! It's nothing compared to some higher level physics classes tho.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I thought we were talking MA?
    The scope of the thread was national, but even in MA Im sure not all districts perform as stellar as yours.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Please. One Direction is so much cooler than New Kids on the Block.
    New kids on the what? Sorry but I do not know that band.

    Guns and Roses, Van Halen, Duran Duran, 1980's U2, 80's Iron Maiden, Ozzy, Queen, REM, Talking Heads, Dire Straits, Kiss, the Police, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Prince, Billy Joel, Metallica, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Genesis, Red Hot Chili peppers, Chicago.

    And that is just the mainstream bands, I also have Slayer, Death Angel, Ronnie James Dio, the Cult, and many more.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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