View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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    31 14.09%
  • 2015 is better overall

    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Our charter schools are zapping money from poorer schools so that is an issue. The positive is our well trained profession. Maybe you didn't read my post.
    If they are zapping money because they are a better product, dumpt the poorer schools or replace them with a better model. But also allow private schools, vouchers, etc.

    Here in CA home schooling far outperforms public ones. And what do the teachers unions do? They try to get them banned. They are on the wrong side on this.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If they are zapping money because they are a better product, dumpt the poorer schools or replace them with a better model. But also allow private schools, vouchers, etc.
    They are not a better product.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We largely do-but you can roll a poo around in glitter and it is what it is.
    The outcomes wont make you happy-people do things differently. Life turns out differently.
    Of course life turns out different for everyone. It's like a box of chocolates isn't it?

    I just know that I would rather be picking candy out of the education box of chocolates, than picking poo out of your glitter box.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Outskirts of LA, so it was all kinds of students.

    Im not saying deny anyone opportunity-Im saying its its not being utilized, why not try another path that might be helpful?
    That's what I am saying also. Instead of getting rid of a terrible public school system, we could just make it better by getting rid of the bad stuff you speak of.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    They are not a better product.
    Apparently thats not the case. Do you teach your students that competition is a good thing?

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Of course life turns out different for everyone. It's like a box of chocolates isn't it?

    I just know that I would rather be picking candy out of the education box of chocolates, than picking poo out of your glitter box.
    I think we all would. But I think the disparity in schools will always exist.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Apparently thats not the case. Do you teach your students that competition is a good thing?
    Yes, that is the case. The charter schools in our state are not a better product than our public schools.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Yeah I remember spending hours everyday studying calculus. Then somebody wants me to give them answers? Sorry.
    I remember spending hours drinking the night before the calculus test.

    That was the semester I decided I needed to change my major.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    That's what I am saying also. Instead of getting rid of a terrible public school system, we could just make it better by getting rid of the bad stuff you speak of.
    For the moment assume I agree (I do), can you explain how to do that when unions oppose any substantive reforms? Here in CA all they do is ask for more money, in LA they spend 16K per student per year. At that price you could higher a private teacher to come teach your child at home one on one.

    Utah spends near the bottom per student per year, and they always do well nationally.

    Its not always a money problem, and its not always poor poor overworked teachers-but thats not what the unions say.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, that is the case. The charter schools in our state are not a better product than our public schools.
    The parents apparently disagree. Why do you think that is?

    And do you teach your students about the benefits of competition?

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