View Poll Results: Was America better off in 1985, or are we better off today in 2015?

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  • 1985 was better overall

    31 14.09%
  • 2015 is better overall

    189 85.91%
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Culturally? Geo-politically? Economically? In which era were people more optimistic about the future?
    Great OP- Everyone looks at then and now in differing ways. The variety of views is wide ranging. I assume that is what you were looking for?
    Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for. It's interesting to hear the viewpoints of people who experienced America back in 1985, because I was just a baby at the time. It's interesting to hear from young people what their perceptions of that era are.

    This thread has taken a turn to the cultural.... I'm frankly surprised, but I welcome it. I would have assumed it would turn in to an Obama vs Reagan debate off the bat. In fact, I even dropped a post in there just to see if anyone would bite.

    Very interesting to see what people value the most, what they remember the most and what it is that they latch on to that makes one era better, in their opinion, than another.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    We've privatized plenty including such things as prisons, our military, even local municipalities are being sold off to the highest bidder. Things currently pushed to be privatized are our public schools, and postal service.
    They need to privatize public schools. That would improve things vastly.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post



    What kind of protection are we are talking about here?
    Many of the trade agreements we have made including NAFTA all the way to Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    They need to privatize public schools. That would improve things vastly.
    It has been tried in Chile. All that's been created is further social stratification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It has been tried in Chile. All that's been created is further social stratification.
    Is Chile really a good laboratory for what would happen here? Anyway, is social stratification inherently a bad thing? Seems like a necessary component of capitalism to me.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Is Chile really a good laboratory for what would happen here? Anyway, is social stratification inherently a bad thing? Seems like a necessary component of capitalism to me.
    Social stratification is not something we should admire.

    All men and women should be of equal status, no one should be considered infeior.
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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Is Chile really a good laboratory for what would happen here? Anyway, is social stratification inherently a bad thing? Seems like a necessary component of capitalism to me.
    Why wouldn't it be? That is where privatization was first practiced. If you are looking for further stratification of our society, privatizing our schools will be a hit with you. People complain how our test scores are being brought down by the poor/disadvantaged and give lip service to wanting to change that trend but then talk about privatization that exacerbates the problem. At least you're honest. Not many people would agree with you though. In order to make our country stronger, we need to better educate everyone.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Social stratification is not something we should admire.

    All men and women should be of equal status, no one should be considered infeior.
    Hmm..the implications of that are interesting.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Social stratification is not something we should admire.

    All men and women should be of equal status, no one should be considered infeior.
    That's not really what I meant by social stratification. In capitalism, some people rise to the top, and some people sink to the bottom. That, in itself, isn't necessarily bad.... so long as productivity is rewarded.

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    Re: 1985 vs 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Many of the trade agreements we have made including NAFTA all the way to Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement.
    So you're against free trade?

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