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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    can you give some quantified metrics that you think illustrate Walker's exemplary track record?
    Sure.

    Wisconsin was running one of the nation's worst state deficits when Walker was inaugurated. The tax cuts and collective bargaining reforms he pushed through the legislature have revitalized the dismal Wisconsin economy and turned a $3.6 billion deficit into a 900+ million dollar surplus and has helped Wisconsin cities save many millions more. Walker's goal of 10,000 new businesses in Wisconsin by 2015 was realized with 13,000 new businesses starting up or moving into the state by the end of 2013 and Wisconsin's real and official unemployment rate is under the national average in a very long time..

    School districts now have the ability to hire and fire based on merit and pay for performance and school choice was expanded. Improvements are beginning to show on test scores though it will be some more years before the full effect of that will be known. And that was accomplished with a decrease in statewide school property taxes.

    $1.2 billion was added to the Medicaid programs that had been seriously underfunded.

    Assuming he would enjoy the same success at the federal level, we could do a whole lot worse than a Scott Walker as President.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Sure.

    Wisconsin was running one of the nation's worst state deficits when Walker was inaugurated. The tax cuts and collective bargaining reforms he pushed through the legislature have revitalized the dismal Wisconsin economy and turned a $3.6 billion deficit into a 900+ million dollar surplus
    Wisconsin has a growing state deficit as he has already blown through the surplus he temporarily obtained.
    Wisconsin state budget shortfall projected at nearly $1.8 billion
    Scott Walker cut $541 million in taxes last year. Now his state will miss a $108 million debt payment. - The Washington Post



    School districts now have the ability to hire and fire based on merit and pay for performance and school choice was expanded. Improvements are beginning to show on test scores though it will be some more years before the full effect of that will be known. And that was accomplished with a decrease in statewide school property taxes.
    don't see any quantified #s here.

    $1.2 billion was added to the Medicaid programs that had been seriously underfunded.
    so he's pro increase in transfer payments?

    Assuming he would enjoy the same success at the federal level, we could do a whole lot worse than a Scott Walker as President.
    Well, sure. Could do a lot better too.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    This is what is wrong with voters in America...style over substance.

    I have no idea who this Walker guy is (other then this thread), but most people that voted here say that if this guy had a degree - say even in Elizabethan Poetry - that he would be a better candidate for POTUS because it proves he did not quit college?
    Or you people would have more respect for him if he never went to college? did any of you bother to find out why he quit college? Maybe it was for a good reason (or maybe not).

    Ridiculous.

    So, this guy quit college when he was much younger...and that is a noticeable strike against him?

    What does that have anything to do with the White House? Like it is a sign he might quit the presidency part way through? Suuuuuure.


    The ONLY things that should matter are how this guy stands on the issues of today. Not whether he finished college or just about anything else he did 20+ years ago.

    'Well, I agree with his stance on all the major issues, but he quit college (even though I did not bother to find out why he did) so...he's out.'



    This is why you people keep voting in one useless turd of a POTUS after another...style over substance.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not an insult at all, just an observation. There is a difference. If you take it as an insult, that's probably more telling than you want to admit.

    Anyway, I've also been on record in this thread that the whole lack of a degree thing is a non-issue, and have stated clearly that track record is much more relevant. College simply isn't for everybody. College is also zero guarantee that a person is competent and capable.
    When you label somebody as 'extremist', you pretty well insult that person I think. At least I take such a label as insulting.

    But I don't disagree that Scott Walker's track record SHOULD override his lack of a college diploma when evaluating his qualifications to be President. As I said, the Democrats aren't suggesting any names of ANYBODY who can even come close to competing for Walker's qualifications for the job.

    But qualifications don't matter all that much do they. The people elected Barack Obama twice despite a miserable track record so far as successes to show before he was elected and despite a miserable showing in his first term. He was the media's choice--he had the right letter after his name--so they made him look glorious and made his opponents look inadequate and clueless. Imagine what they will do to a candidate with the wrong letter after his name who doesn't even have a college diploma. Few people will hear about Scott Walker's accomplishments and successes. But they'll hear a lot about that lack of a diploma.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    The curriculum for the degree is set by the faculty of the department (or higher up, too) to complete a prescribed course of study that satisfies their level of minimal study to show higher level education in that area.

    Would you hire someone as mechanical engineer who never graduated with his degree and decided not to take statics and dynamics?

    Further, would you say someone has a high school education if they dropped out after 9th grade? Of course not. "Has an education" _in "X" implies they took (and passed) the patently obvious and requisite courses to fully attain that education.

    He took a bunch of college courses, but he didn't complete a degree. What field is he educated in specifically at a collegiate level?
    What if someone took every single course required to graduate but chose not to put in for their degree?

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Perhaps this might explain why Walker wants to cut even more money out of higher education.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    I don't see that it matters.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    When you label somebody as 'extremist', you pretty well insult that person I think. At least I take such a label as insulting.

    But I don't disagree that Scott Walker's track record SHOULD override his lack of a college diploma when evaluating his qualifications to be President. As I said, the Democrats aren't suggesting any names of ANYBODY who can even come close to competing for Walker's qualifications for the job.

    But qualifications don't matter all that much do they. The people elected Barack Obama twice despite a miserable track record so far as successes to show before he was elected and despite a miserable showing in his first term. He was the media's choice--he had the right letter after his name--so they made him look glorious and made his opponents look inadequate and clueless. Imagine what they will do to a candidate with the wrong letter after his name who doesn't even have a college diploma. Few people will hear about Scott Walker's accomplishments and successes. But they'll hear a lot about that lack of a diploma.
    This is just a theory that I've been tossing around for a couple years now. The general fact regarding incumbent and/or known candidates having overwhelming advantage in elections and re-elections is well known. However, maybe... just maybe... the voting populace actually did choose Obama *because* he was a relative outsider. Maybe people did consciously go for the "new guy" over the 'old and stale', because they were tired of the same old crap.

    If so, it doesn't seem to have worked out well for us. One of Obama's biggest failures has been his utter inability to even communicate with Congress. Either side of Congress, even.

    This potential is causing me to rethink what has become for me a knee-jerk reaction against incumbents. Maybe we need people with at least some experience, people who understand the game and who will play the game.

    I have to wonder if Obama could have been a decent President if he had a couple more Senate terms under his belt, and maybe this is why the Dems aren't putting forth any new names this time.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    When you label somebody as 'extremist', you pretty well insult that person I think. At least I take such a label as insulting.

    But I don't disagree that Scott Walker's track record SHOULD override his lack of a college diploma when evaluating his qualifications to be President. As I said, the Democrats aren't suggesting any names of ANYBODY who can even come close to competing for Walker's qualifications for the job.

    But qualifications don't matter all that much do they. The people elected Barack Obama twice despite a miserable track record so far as successes to show before he was elected and despite a miserable showing in his first term. He was the media's choice--he had the right letter after his name--so they made him look glorious and made his opponents look inadequate and clueless. Imagine what they will do to a candidate with the wrong letter after his name who doesn't even have a college diploma. Few people will hear about Scott Walker's accomplishments and successes. But they'll hear a lot about that lack of a diploma.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Wisconsin has a growing state deficit as he has already blown through the surplus he temporarily obtained.
    Wisconsin state budget shortfall projected at nearly $1.8 billion
    Scott Walker cut $541 million in taxes last year. Now his state will miss a $108 million debt payment. - The Washington Post




    don't see any quantified #s here.


    so he's pro increase in transfer payments?



    Well, sure. Could do a lot better too.
    Who do you think would be better than Walker? And cite their track record and qualifications please.

    As for the deferred principle payment, these happen in almost every state to balance cash flow. Such has been done I think I read seven times in Wisconsin since 2001 and before Walker was inaugurated. I wonder if those occasions were held up as black marks against the governor at that time?
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