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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And at he end of the day, numbers are only numbers. I think making a huge deal out of degrees is dumb.
    Agreed. In the long run, while a degree might help you get your foot in the door employers are more interested in experience.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

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    OK, then. Let's take it one at time. Provide us with links to Bush's volunteer requests for active duty status and a PCS to Vietnam. If I'm not mistaken you said that he volunteered twice.
    You are mistaken. I said he attempted to volunteer for rotation to Vietnam. I did not say twice.

    FNC: Bush Volunteered for Vietnam, CBS's Mapes Knowingly Omitted from Story

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Wow, I didn't know it was possible to cheat on an IQ test.
    It's not.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Walker has demonstrated that he has the education, chops, instincts, and skill set to get things done. He can recruit good people and manages well. And he has demonstrated some solid values and a lot of common sense. So his lack of a degree doesn't bother me as to whether he is up to the job.

    What does bother me is how much it could effectively be used by his opponents to convince a gullible and less-than-savvy public out there that he just isn't up to the job? And would that make him unelectable? They've already been persuaded to vote for Obama twice over imminently more qualified candidates. Media manipulation and hard ball campaigning has a terrible effect on people who make no effort to think for themselves.

    So far the Democrats haven't put up a single name that I would even consider voting for, and certainly Walker, if he was the nominee, would get my vote. But I do think a lack of degree will certainly be used against him effectively.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Agreed. In the long run, while a degree might help you get your foot in the door employers are more interested in experience.
    This is true. I am one of those people with enough college hours to qualify for at least a Master's degree, but technically I have no degree. But because I was able to talk to people face to face and provide references who could vouch for what I could do, or had proved to them what I could do, and because those who hired me weren't interested in political correctness or ideology or political affiliation, they hired me. So for most of my working life I have held jobs that required degrees. One required an advanced degree.

    But as I said, I worked for people who used their savvy, know how, and instincts to chose the right person for the job. In an election, we have way too many people voting who have no savvy, no understanding of what is involved in the office, no real understanding of the issues, and who just go with the pretty face, the one with the right letter after his/her name, or the one the media doesn't demonize. A mostly left leaning mainstream media would almost certainly shrug off lack of education in the Democratic candidate--they sure weren't interested in Obama's education were they. But they would make it a huge deal for the Republican candidate who lacked a college degree.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    ...A mostly left leaning mainstream media would almost certainly shrug off lack of education in the Democratic candidate--they sure weren't interested in Obama's education were they. But they would make it a huge deal for the Republican candidate who lacked a college degree.
    Would or should anyone expect anything else? We find reasons to bash candidates that we don't like, and reasons why candidates that we like are qualified. Both sides do this.

    As far as Obama, I didn't know that there was any controversy as to whether he had a degree or not. With a lack of controversy, then there would be no reason for either party to bring this up as an issue. A degree today is pretty much the new high school diploma - it's not required, but it's certainly expected for a position of power. If a candidate has one, then there is no issue, and thus the candidates educational background may never be mentioned by the media, regardless of party, but if the candidate lacks one, then it's a fact worth mentioning, regardless of party.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post

    You are mistaken. I said he attempted to volunteer for rotation to Vietnam. I did not say twice.

    FNC: Bush Volunteered for Vietnam, CBS's Mapes Knowingly Omitted from Story
    What you've given me as documentation is a "he said, she said".

    It's simple enough to solve as it has been from day one. I don't know about now, but back then it was difficult to do much of anything without mountains of paperwork. There was paperwork for everything - and there was always an unbelievable number of copies.

    Here's how it didn't go:

    Bush: Sir, Can I go to Vietnam?

    Bush's CO: No, you can't.

    Bush: Oh, well. Thanks, anyway.

    Here's how it did go, if it happened. There was paperwork. Bush had to sign the request, as did his CO, and God knows who else. It would required signatures, copies would go to his personnel file whether the request was approved or not.

    No one that I have read has ever seen a copy of the request. It doesn't exist.

    What he may have done is inquired. LOL!

    Further, about the same time Bush enlisted the last 102 squadron in Vietnam shipped back to the states. He would have had to retrain to another type of aircraft to fly in Vietnam. There's no record of him doing that that I am aware of.

    Further, if Bush had wanted to go to Vietnam he could have gone USAF. He didn't do that.

    Yes, ANG pilots did TDY tours in Vietnam. Probably there were 102 ANG pilots in Vietnam in early to mid 60's, but there were no 102s in Vietnam in by the end of 1968.










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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Would or should anyone expect anything else? We find reasons to bash candidates that we don't like, and reasons why candidates that we like are qualified. Both sides do this.

    As far as Obama, I didn't know that there was any controversy as to whether he had a degree or not. With a lack of controversy, then there would be no reason for either party to bring this up as an issue. A degree today is pretty much the new high school diploma - it's not required, but it's certainly expected for a position of power. If a candidate has one, then there is no issue, and thus the candidates educational background may never be mentioned by the media, regardless of party, but if the candidate lacks one, then it's a fact worth mentioning, regardless of party.
    Exactly. I have a number of reasons that I won't vote for Walker. None of those reasons are Walker's lack of academic credentials. I can think of no reason that might convince me to change my mind, but Walker's academic credentials are not an option in that regard either.

    Even choice across the board on any candidate vs another candidate, all things being equal, I am going with the person who has better academic credentials.










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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    lol he taught at U Chicago. He stayed in academia after graduating. His grades were fine
    Prove it.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    This is true. I am one of those people with enough college hours to qualify for at least a Master's degree, but technically I have no degree. But because I was able to talk to people face to face and provide references who could vouch for what I could do, or had proved to them what I could do, and because those who hired me weren't interested in political correctness or ideology or political affiliation, they hired me. So for most of my working life I have held jobs that required degrees. One required an advanced degree.

    But as I said, I worked for people who used their savvy, know how, and instincts to chose the right person for the job. In an election, we have way too many people voting who have no savvy, no understanding of what is involved in the office, no real understanding of the issues, and who just go with the pretty face, the one with the right letter after his/her name, or the one the media doesn't demonize. A mostly left leaning mainstream media would almost certainly shrug off lack of education in the Democratic candidate--they sure weren't interested in Obama's education were they. But they would make it a huge deal for the Republican candidate who lacked a college degree.
    Greetings, AlbqOwl.

    : I can't see where a law degree would be appropriate or necessary for a Governor, since they are basically running a huge business. An understanding of basic business practices would sway me more than a law degree in that example, and State offices have attorneys to answer legal questions. An average everyday farmer probably has more business savvy than most people in DC! You can't say "oops," if you don't get the cows milked, or the crops planted, or the harvesting done before the crops rot in the field. And when you consider the dismal approval ratings of everyone in DC, and how much or little of anything useful is being done, it doesn't look like a law degree is especially noteworthy there either - with the possible exception of knowing what the loopholes in the law are! Why they can exempt themselves from laws they make has never been explained, but it's not difficult to understand the How part - because they can! That needs to be changed, because it's arrogant and unfair to the people they represent who must obey those laws!

    The only reason Walker has been targeted, IMO, is because he has won several elections in spite of their efforts to demonize and defeat him. The voters felt otherwise and voted accordingly. That's life. Few of us always get our way!

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