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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Nope. Obamacare is a big fat failure.
    not per your standards earlier in the thread.

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    I will defer to his electoral success.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It also is reasonable to conclude your opinion is that no one with less than a 4 year college diploma should be allowed to be police, who make life and death decisions, because they aren't educated enough.
    I would like to see more degreed police officers. Nothing wrong with that.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    But then there is a big difference between the family name getting your foot in the door and daddy buying you a diploma. Once Bush was accepted he was on his own. Al Gore did not have terrific grades either. And I don't think anyone would dispute that Gore had his senator daddy's help getting admitted to Harvard.
    I am not a partisan. Yes, indeed you can find fortunate sons of every stripe having it made easy for them because of their family's wealth and power. I find the practice deplorable and most definitely undemocratic. I won't excuse one because it happened to another. Wrong is wrong. I don't believe for the most part that America or the world is a better place because people didn't have to work as hard due to the fact that they were given favors, exemptions or the like because of their parents social, political and financial status.

    In my opinion most elected officials are self serving chicken****s. Few served in the military and you know damned well their children will not. George W skated through life. His father either bailed him out or smoothed the way for damn near everything in W's life. We have no reason to believe that a fortunate son with an arrest record and low SAT scores didn't benefit from his father's wealth and position to enter Yale. Same again for Harvard. Everything else was given to W. including his military commission, his champaign assignment, his lost national guard years and his business "experiences".

    Another fortunate son, Al Gore, grew up in a hotel in DC. Imagine having room service until you went away to college! At least Gore actually spent 6 months in-country during Vietnam. I will give him credit for that. He certainly had the power and ability available to him to avoid it.

    Having said that I don't support the system that permits either or anyone privileges he or she didn't earn in America.










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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    From what I've seen, just getting a generic college degree is a matter of 1.) paying tuition, 2.) reciting what profs say and 3.) at least a minimal amount of kiss-ass of the profs. Of itself, many college degrees do not indicate either intelligence or acquired knowledge.

    Largely, it depends upon the university and the degree.

    In addition, years and years of highly specialized education - is also years and years of learning nothing else. What does a lawyer know of war? Diplomacy? Foreign policy? Economics? Social policy?

    The only thing it seems our president learned as a "constitutional specialist" is all the loopholes by which he can get around constitutional restraints. He certainly has not proven himself an expert in military or foreign policy questions.
    I don't necessary disagree with your perspective about education. Some get it. Some don't. Not all who endure the process benefit. But if they miss the most important element, which is learning how to teach oneself...then all is for naught, no matter how smart a person is. Being smart isn't synonymous with success or leadership abilities.

    As far as Obama and his academic experiences - both learning as a student, then later teacher - which has somehow manifest into his political behaviors as president. What president hasn't?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Obama fan. But I think it would be naive to see Obama engaging in something unique.

    Here's the deal, Joko. The shortcomings of the Framers of the Constitution didn't include with the criteria of those who could run for office (with the exception in the judicial branch) - educational requirements and the necessity to have specific background experiences, which would make a person be able to make expert choices and decisions. Or even be capable of sorting out and making the most intelligible decisions based on information offered by experts as to the best course of action.

    Our system of government and its election process isn't for ordinary people. People in high office don't get their by accident. There actions aren't for the benefit of the little people.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Attacking Scott Walker on the lack of a college degree would just be a dumb move for any political opponent (in my opinion). It comes off as elitist and superficial.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If he was making over 100,000 per year why would he need to live in a basement when he lost his job?
    poor financial planning, probably

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    academic supremacists make me giggle.

    He has a college education, he lacks the degree, though.
    It's a simple case of....the democrats see Walker as a possible threat to them in 2016, they have done opposition research, and all they can come up with is "no college degree". So they will attempt to get mileage off of that.

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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Is it an issue for you. I like him, but that is a sticking point.
    No: he's a profound idiot and doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning a presidential election. He's the reverse side of the Sarah Palin coin.
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    It's a simple case of....the democrats see Walker as a possible threat to them in 2016, they have done opposition research, and all they can come up with is "no college degree". So they will attempt to get mileage off of that.
    "Walker as a possible threat.."

    Think about that...

    Their 'shoe in" is a septegenarian with no platform whose greatest accomplishment is staying married to Bill.

    Behind that is Joe Biden....

    It isn't just Scott Walker they see as a threat....right now, in the shadow of eight years of Obama, Canada is a threat to them for the US presidency....
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    Re: Scott Walkers lack of College Degree.

    It'll hurt him in circles that matter in terms of money.


    So yes it's a problem. A bachelors degree is the basic assessment of respect of the class system to which the vast majority of rich (who you need to become president) adhere to. The average person without a degree doesn't understand that having a degree has nothing to do with wealth or status or anything like that to class. It has to do with the fact that by having a degree you "Acknowledge and hence submit your respect to the class order and its realities that dictate the world". That's why it will hurt him if he doesn't have it. It basically tells people you aren't cognizant of how the world runs.
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